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Talapia

Started by GV Jack · Apr 15, 2014 · 28 replies
GV Jack
Ok you fishing types, here is a question.

Is there such a fish as a Talapia?

I have been told that Talapia in the stores is made up of pieces and parts of various different fish.

Recently I saw a picture purported to be that of a man with a record Talapia, but it looked more like a Grouper to me.

Enlighten this old man who is counting the days..22 to be exact.
tequilatodd
I have purchased some fish in the US that is called Tilapia. I actually bought it at Pro's Ranch Market. It was a whole fillet.
I breaded it with my corn chip coating and lightly pan fried. YUMMMMM
Reminds me of Trigger in taste and texture.
LOUDMUSIC
Tilapia is a type of cichlid that comes from Africa. Mozambique Tilapia is probably one of the more common types offered. They are farm raised for the commercial food and aquarium markets. Some people love the flavor,mothers not so much.
El Tiburon
Be careful with farmed talapia. A good amount comes from fish farming operations in China and they don't use the best hygenic methods. Polluted water is the big problem. There have been recent studies released on the health issues with eating talapia. I personally avoid it.
AZRob
GV Jack said:
Ok you fishing types, here is a question.

Is there such a fish as a Talapia?

I have been told that Talapia in the stores is made up of pieces and parts of various different fish.

Recently I saw a picture purported to be that of a man with a record Talapia, but it looked more like a Grouper to me.

Enlighten this old man who is counting the days..22 to be exact.






Jack you can go to the nearest canal system by your house and catch one. I call them Sh*t eaters and will never eat one, unless I had no other choice to survive. I think of them as mini carps.

Tilapia has been used as biological controls for certain aquatic plant problems. It has a preference for a floating aquatic plant, duckweed (Lemna sp.) but also consume some filamentous algae.[13] In Kenya tilapia were introduced to control mosquitoes which were causing malaria, because they consume mosquito larvae, consequently reducing the numbers of adult female mosquitoes, the vector of the disease (Petr 2000). These benefits are, however, frequently outweighed by the negative aspects of tilapia as an invasive species.

Tilapia are unable to survive in temperate climates because they require warm water. The pure strain of the blue tilapia, Oreochromis aureus, has the greatest cold tolerance and dies at 45 °F (7 °C), while all other species of tilapia will die at a range of 52 to 62 °F (11 to 17 °C). As a result, they cannot invade temperate habitats and disrupt native ecologies in temperate zones; however, they have spread widely beyond their points of introduction in many fresh and brackish tropical and subtropical habitats, often disrupting native species significantly.[14]Because of this, tilapia are on the IUCN's 100 of the World's Worst Alien Invasive Species list.[15] In the United States, tilapia are found in much of Florida, Texas, and a few other isolated areas like power plant discharge zones. Tilapia are also currently stocked in the Phoenix, Arizona canal system as an algae growth control measure. Many state fish and wildlife agencies in the United States, Australia, South Africa, and elsewhere consider them to be invasive species.[16]
ABQ Adventurers
Fascinating! Learn something new every day. Thanks!
tequilatodd
so maybe what I purchased was not Tilapia?
AZRob
tequilatodd said:
so maybe what I purchased was not Tilapia?



If it read Tilapia on package, it was the bottom poo eater you ate. You still want to say yum after you know what they are? HA HA HA
tequilatodd
what a buzz kill :(
AZRob
Sorry! But now you know. I think if you let them soak in tequila all night, they will be better to eat.
AZRob
Jack is out at the canal fishing for them now. HA HA
Stuart
The ones you catch out of the canals are not bad eating at all. The ones imported farm raised from China... no way. About the same as a big bluegill or crappie.
El Tiburon
Talapia are used to clean the poo areas where salmon are farmed so the salmon doesn't get infected.
tequilatodd
STOP!! :eek:
So when I buy what they call Tilapia from the butcher at Frys.. I am buying PoopFish?
Terry C
Pretty chitty deal if you ask me!
mis2810
LOL! Think about how many snobby Scottsdale restauarants serve Tilapia!
DeniseAck
My brother just told me the same info last month. I'm horrified! Blech, blech, blech! Wipe my tongue with a napkin!


And more ick factor: http://www.realfarmacy.com/why-you-should-never-eat-tilapia/
Last edited: Apr 17, 2014 at 11:46 AM
Kenny
"Making a blanket determination about whether American consumers should shun all food (or all of a particular type of food) imported from China is problematic because, as the FDA noted, the Chinese food industry is so broad and diverse:
Read more at http://www.snopes.com/food/warnings/tilapia.asp#5BRUKfJdfWuh5t5x.99
GV Jack
Okay...I know more now than I did. Would you equate the quality of Talapia with say Cat Fish?

Thanks for the resposnses. It has kept me busy while recovering from my surgery. Nothing serious,
apricot
First time poster, but read this blog everyday.

Interesting article in today's Durango Herald about a farmer in Colorado using aquaponics to harvest lettuce and kale. He uses tilapia to fertilize his greens. He's planning to harvest 400 and 600 lbs of lettuce and kale per week using this method. http://durangoherald.com/article/20140416/NEWS06/140419652/0/NEWS01/Fish-helped-grow-these-greens
AZRob
GV Jack said:
Okay...I know more now than I did. Would you equate the quality of Talapia with say Cat Fish?

Thanks for the resposnses. It has kept me busy while recovering from my surgery. Nothing serious,

Catfish are on the boarder, they like to eat fish more then poo.
GV Jack
Well, I had a chance to find out for myself...on a limited basis.

My wife brought home a package of frozen "Talapia" fillets that were crusted in tortillas.
They were baked and I can honestly say that must have been one humongous POOO
eater, because that's what it tasted like. Even a good tartar sauce couldn't help.

I think I'll stick to the old stand byes. Thanks for the input.
AZRob
tequilatodd said:
STOP!! :eek:
So when I buy what they call Tilapia from the butcher at Frys.. I am buying PoopFish?



Next time tell the butch, "give me 2 lbs of the sh*t eater." HA HA HA Did you have a funky taste in your mouth when you ate it? I wounder after it ate another fishes poo, if it ate its own poo. Double poo eating fish.
GV Jack
I'll bet he had that Poo Eating Grin...;)
Kenny
AZRob said:
Catfish are on the boarder, they like to eat fish more then poo.

The top predator in AZ is the Flathead Catfish and I've caught many Channel Cats on Spinners and live minnows. The only bad tasting catfish I've ever had are a few Channels at Pleasant who had been chasing Crawdads around rocks that were mossy and sucked moss in when grabbing the Crawdads.
AZRob
GV Jack said:
I'll bet he had that Poo Eating Grin...;)

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fishman
I hate to clean up some, But this POO being posted on this forum just stinks. Tilapia (proper spelling) are one of the most widely cultured species in the world. Because some idiot did a dirty jobs segment on a poorly managed striped bass farm in California POO abounds about the fish. It is a fresh water fish. They will die in salt water. Sorry no Salmon cleanup. The striped bass farm in CA, long out of business, was using them to clean up uneaten feed from their incompetently run farm. Nilotica are the primary species raised for human consumption. They are an omnivore which means they will eat a lot of things. Any fish that you buy has been raised on feed better than what they feed to chickens and hogs eat lots of garbage Tilapia wont eat. I personally manufactured feed for millions of Tilapia over the last thirty years and the feed is better than what you eat. Some fish are raised in questionable conditions outside the US but the same can be said about almost every fruit and vegetable you buy. When you buy a wild fish you have no idea what it's been eating. I'm not particularly fond of the flavor myself but it's better than a catfish. None of this is POO like most of the stuff posted above. Fishman
Roberto
Tilapia fresh fillets to US hit record volumes in 2013, with prices high
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May 15, 2014, 8:49 pm
[U]Alicia Villegas[/U]
US imports of fresh tilapia fillets were at record levels in 2013 at a total of 59 million of pounds, up by 7.27% year-on-year, Angel Rubio, chief market analyst at Urner Barry said during the conferences at the Aquamar International expo this year in Veracruz, Mexico.
Despite high demand, average prices remained flat to stronger last year at $4.15 per pound, due to pre-arranged sales to the same clients at similar prices.
Prices are now at $4.25 per pound, an upward trend linked to the shift from tilapia production to shrimp in Ecuador.
As Ecuador tilapia supply of fresh fillets decreased, its market share has shrunk from 32% in 2008 to 13% in 2014 as buyers have gone to other suppliers with prices going up as a result.
Honduras, where Regal Springs Tilapia has a large operation, has emerged now as the main supplier of fresh fillets to the US with 40% of imports, followed by Costa Rica (21%), Ecuador (13%), Colombia (12%) and Mexico (9%). Regal Springs is also ramping up its operation in Mexico.
Whole tilapia, for its part, saw an increase of demand in 2013. Rubio was unable to precisely pinpoint what drove the heightened consumer interest, but suggested the growing Latin American community in the US could be a factor.
Frozen tilapia fillets imports — 93% coming from China — showed more volatile prices last year, although decreasing prices of shrimp from Ecuador can involve an “umbrella effect” so prices for other species could also go down now, which could be the main factor affecting seafood this year, Rubio said, citing John Sackton of Seafood News
marybna
Last time I was down, I saw talapia at Walmart. It looked fesh. I bought some at the old port and it was awful Just finished the res snapper I got somewhere down there and everyone wants more of that. I do okay with the Shrimp and scallops but some of the other stuff is not so good.