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What can I expect to catch in December

Started by angler · Nov 8, 2012 · 75 replies
angler
Hello. I'm new to the forum. I grew up going to Rocky Point in the late 70's through the 80's, but the last time I was down there was I think '92. I fished a little as a kid, but I knew nothing.

I'm coming back to see how it has changed and I'm bringing light surf spinning gear and a couple of fly rods. I'll be there between Christmas and New Year's. What can I expect to catch from the beach that time of year? Where are good locations to fish? I will be staying at Playa del Oro.

Thanks for any advice.
DeeDee
We were there this past January & February. Went fishing on a ponga boat, horrible, anyways we got trigger, & bottom fish (rock bass). We should be there for xmas as well, staying at PDO for 2 months. There is a guy that walks around PDO asking if you want to go fishing he charges lots. Ask Mark (seadweller) on this forum his wife sets up fishing charters at alot better price & better boats. we like to stay around #218 at PDO so come over for a drink.
Mexico Joe
angler said:
Hello. I'm new to the forum. I grew up going to Rocky Point in the late 70's through the 80's, but the last time I was down there was I think '92. I fished a little as a kid, but I knew nothing.

I'm coming back to see how it has changed and I'm bringing light surf spinning gear and a couple of fly rods. I'll be there between Christmas and New Year's. What can I expect to catch from the beach that time of year? Where are good locations to fish? I will be staying at Playa del Oro.

Thanks for any advice.



Sorry, DeeDee just got done voting for Romney and now the brain is spent. Let me answer your question more directly and concisely. From shore in your time frame it is going to be difficult fishing. You should target flounder and IMO that is pry the most likely targted fish during this time of the year. You should be able to catch some rock bass as well. You can fish out in front of PDO and all to the Northwest. Cholla Bay offers some good fishing as well from shore. Try weighted line with scampi tail/shrimp tipped with shrimp or squid. You can also try using spoons and casting metal like Kastmasters worked slowly but it is also a lot easier to get these hung up. Essentially, winter time means bottom fishing.
Roberto
You can catch a cold if you are not careful !

Sorry, sorry, GV made me do it !!
lagrimas85
Roberto said:
You can catch a cold if you are not careful !

Sorry, sorry, GV made me do it !!


Also catch a glimps of a 40 foot whale, that beached himself, in front of Playa Lopez....The coyotes are tearing the body apart now...I stopped by forum member Esperanzas house Sunday morning and she pointed him out.
Wood Spinner
Hey Angler
We also stay in PDO # 50 We are down about every other weekend for a couple of days but this time it may be less as we just sold our home and will be packing and moving between now an Dec 17. We will be down for the Thanksgiving weekend thing. All are welcome. Check the site for information. We do a feed on TG. a boat trip the next day and a fish fry at my place the next day if we get fish on the boat.
Mexico Joe
Wood Spinner said:
Hey Angler
We also stay in PDO # 50 We are down about every other weekend for a couple of days but this time it may be less as we just sold our home and will be packing and moving between now an Dec 17. We will be down for the Thanksgiving weekend thing. All are welcome. Check the site for information. We do a feed on TG. a boat trip the next day and a fish fry at my place the next day if we get fish on the boat.



He asked a very specific question and you answered him with this! This forum has now turned into somewhat of a joke. Im one of the biggest offenders of kidding around but when someone like the OP posts a question regarding something specific and Im the only one out of 6 replies that even comes close to giving some useful information on the subject....??????????? Seriously, it's staring to get bad. This isn't ~~~Happy~~~ asking where the best fishing spot is, this is a new poster asking very pertinent questions which are being answered with the most donkey answers. Even the two posters that tried to honestly answer the question didnt even come close to providing useful information to the OP. Please focus when you read, sometimes re-reading can help that comprehension too! OP wants to know where to fish from shore and what to expect to catch during the Christmas week into New Years. We dont need to know what PDO # you stay at and what you're eating tonight, we dont need to stop by and we dont need to know what people are catching in July. Please focus and answer the OP's questions. 1. Where to fish from shore? 2. What to expect to catch? 3. Provide other useful information. Thank you.
jerry
I think things are cooling down slower this year.I went swimming yesterday and it was nice.I also started at least seeing fish jump for the first time in a while.
moore_rb
Jerry has a good point - (do any of you understand the agony I had to endure as I typed that...?)

December shore fishing will probably be better this year than most due to the warmer water.

Like Joe says- curly tail grubs and shad bodies on 1/2 to 1 ounce lead heads fished near the bottom will be a good way to go, as will chunks of squid and/or shrimp on a small (#1 or 1/0) live bait hook.


Expect to catch spotted bay bass (aka rock bass), flounder, and have some 3/4 ounce silver spoons ready just in case a school of Corvina or gafftopsail Pompano happen to breeze through.


Where to fish: I always liked fishing the estuaries and the stretches of beach around them best. If you can handle a 40 minute drive- head out to La Pinta.
azfish
Mexico Joe said:
He asked a very specific question and you answered him with this! This forum has now turned into somewhat of a joke. Im one of the biggest offenders of kidding around but when someone like the OP posts a question regarding something specific and Im the only one out of 6 replies that even comes close to giving some useful information on the subject....??????????? Seriously, it's staring to get bad. This isn't ~~~Happy~~~ asking where the best fishing spot is, this is a new poster asking very pertinent questions which are being answered with the most donkey answers. Even the two posters that tried to honestly answer the question didnt even come close to providing useful information to the OP. Please focus when you read, sometimes re-reading can help that comprehension too! OP wants to know where to fish from shore and what to expect to catch during the Christmas week into New Years. We dont need to know what PDO # you stay at and what you're eating tonight, we dont need to stop by and we dont need to know what people are catching in July. Please focus and answer the OP's questions. 1. Where to fish from shore? 2. What to expect to catch? 3. Provide other useful information. Thank you.


I gave up asking anything on here, ever since the last time. Angler if you really want to know something your best bet is just google it.
rockyptjoe
Mexico Joe said:
He asked a very specific question and you answered him with this! This forum has now turned into somewhat of a joke. Im one of the biggest offenders of kidding around but when someone like the OP posts a question regarding something specific and Im the only one out of 6 replies that even comes close to giving some useful information on the subject....??????????? Seriously, it's staring to get bad. This isn't ~~~Happy~~~ asking where the best fishing spot is, this is a new poster asking very pertinent questions which are being answered with the most donkey answers. Even the two posters that tried to honestly answer the question didnt even come close to providing useful information to the OP. Please focus when you read, sometimes re-reading can help that comprehension too! OP wants to know where to fish from shore and what to expect to catch during the Christmas week into New Years. We dont need to know what PDO # you stay at and what you're eating tonight, we dont need to stop by and we dont need to know what people are catching in July. Please focus and answer the OP's questions. 1. Where to fish from shore? 2. What to expect to catch? 3. Provide other useful information. Thank you.

What indignation....particularly when it comes to something you're into...fishing! The Fishing area is about the only place you have pretty much stayed on track! Yeah, the forum has pretty much turned into a joke...and you have been one of the culprits. So Mr. Pot...stop calling some other kettle black!
angler
This forum is hilarious. It usually takes me several posts in a place before I start this kind of fire.......

Questions: What is "TG?" Are the estuaries easy to find? I remember when I was younger picking the wrong road, getting my dad's f150 stuck and hitching all the way back into town. I'm guessing they are both a little easier to find now. It looks like I just follow the signs to the Mayan Palace to get to La Pinta. Is that the best way to get out there? Is there decent access?

This will be a very short visit. 3 nights after Christmas in a beach front space at PDO. We really won't have time for a charter. I don't have a space number, but look for a late model grey F-250 with an old Sunline cabover camper. And a dog with tiger stripes. And a 6'4" guy with a full beard. I love to hear about dinners and what you are drinking. I like it even more to be invited for drinks and dinner!

I am very familiar with how to surf fish, so I know the drill. I have thrown flies in most of this planet's oceans. I grew fishing and crabbing the 1st and 2nd estuaries and will start there. I will bring all kinds of conventional tackle and boxes and boxes of flies. Shiny ones are needed I gather.

Thanks for the information - both on the fishing and the nature of this forum!
Last edited: Nov 9, 2012 at 8:14 AM
Stuart
Some of you need to just shut up and go fishing. :puff:

Hopefully, I will be next weekend.

Welcome, Angler!
DeeDee
Mexico Joe said:
Sorry, DeeDee just got done voting for Romney and now the brain is spent. Let me answer your question more directly and concisely. From shore in your time frame it is going to be difficult fishing. You should target flounder and IMO that is pry the most likely targted fish during this time of the year. You should be able to catch some rock bass as well. You can fish out in front of PDO and all to the Northwest. Cholla Bay offers some good fishing as well from shore. Try weighted line with scampi tail/shrimp tipped with shrimp or squid. You can also try using spoons and casting metal like Kastmasters worked slowly but it is also a lot easier to get these hung up. Essentially, winter time means bottom fishing.

Mexico Joe you are obviously spent because I never said I was coming down to fish. maybe you should re-read posts before you comment. please focus!
Kenny
DeeDee said:
Mexico Joe you are obviously spent because I never said I was comind down to fish

Thats so true, but I'm thinking Joe was commenting on your reply when the question was "What can I expect to catch from the beach that time of year?".
I hope the Angler comes by to see you DeeDee. Who knows, he might even share some fish with ya.:thumbsup:
Mexico Joe
DeeDee said:
Mexico Joe you are obviously spent because I never said I was coming down to fish. maybe you should re-read posts before you comment. please focus!



O My Word! lol you're a hard person to talk to. Someone asked about shore fishing, your original reply was we caught fish on a boat. Do you see where Im going with this? Kenny, Im confused now, can we help this person out? Lot's of medications not being taken around here lately. :fail:
jmcdtucson
Just want to make sure, if you just follow the signs to the Mayan, you will end up at the Mayan and they won't let you fish there.
You need to keep going on the paved road past the Mayan and all the way past the 2nd estuary. Then there's a fairly major dirt road on the right with an old building next to it. If there's a hand-written sign saying the road is closed, ignore it.
Take that and you'll get down to the place the pangas launch. Good fishing there just walk a few hundred yards down the beach (toward the open ocean) and there's a little reef out there.
Search for La Pinta on this site and you'll find better directions with the exact kilometer marker to look for.
Roberto


Questions:
What is "TG?" Are the estuaries easy to find? I remember when I was younger picking the wrong road, getting my dad's f150 stuck and hitching all the way back into town. I'm guessing they are both a little easier to find now. It looks like I just follow the signs to the Mayan Palace to get to La Pinta. Is that the best way to get out there? Is there decent access?

TG, thanksgiving !!. There are two major estuaries within a short drive of Play de Oro. The first is the Marua, second is La PInta.

The Marua lies between the end of the peninsula that hosts Las Conchas and the Encanto Beach area. You could drive all the way through Las Conchas and walk to the end of the peninsula and the west side of the Marua to fish. I know people who report catching bass, corvina and flounder all along the beach at Las Conchas. Watch for pelicans diving and fish there if you can. You could go to the other side of the Marua to fish as well. Take the highway toward the Mayan and then right turn at signs for Encanto ( Estero can you help here with the signs?) The road is very good unless there has been a large rain, then you need a boat! As you approach the sea you will bear right and drive along the side of the large coastal dune on your left and the shallow estuary on the right. You will not see the ocean from this short drive. You will pass through a couple of 'guard gates' of developments and small groups of homes, but don't be put off just go through. In maybe a mile or so you will come to the end of the peninsula and the entry to the 'Sportsman Club" and the east side of the Marua. You can park there at the end of the road and walk to the right along the Marua with the best action reported close to the mouth of the Marua. A friend just reported a girl friend catching corvina and flounder there off the beach ( he did not catch anything !). If you have a dog with you please do not take it into this area as it is a bird sanctuary.

La PInta is out the highway to Mayan. a few KM past the Mayan you will see the remains of a house close to the road, on the right hand side of the road and the road is a wide road in good shape. That same road goes to to the left also to Sierra La Pinta and all the way through to Sonoita if you have 4WD and are very adventurous. You will turn to the right and go about 1/2 mile. The sea is not visable for most of the drive, but as you crest you will come to Gillispie's old hacienda and usually several pangas and maybe fishermen working the pangas. If you have 4wd you can pass to the beach, otherwise park near the hacienda on the left side and walk to the beach. There is a reef to the right about 500 yards that the locals like to fish from. You will see it at low tide, not at high. There is also a reef and a huge bed of clams to the left along the shore about 1500 yards or so.

You can fish all along the Mirador beach as well. I know people who do and catch some, mostly bass.

The weather in December is usually good with the wind being a factor for comfort. December historically shows the most rain but it is very little at that.

Have a great time.
Kenny
You've came a long way Roberto.
rplarry
Mexico Joe said:
He asked a very specific question and you answered him with this! This forum has now turned into somewhat of a joke. Im one of the biggest offenders of kidding around but when someone like the OP posts a question regarding something specific and Im the only one out of 6 replies that even comes close to giving some useful information on the subject....??????????? Seriously, it's staring to get bad. This isn't ~~~Happy~~~ asking where the best fishing spot is, this is a new poster asking very pertinent questions which are being answered with the most donkey answers. Even the two posters that tried to honestly answer the question didnt even come close to providing useful information to the OP. Please focus when you read, sometimes re-reading can help that comprehension too! OP wants to know where to fish from shore and what to expect to catch during the Christmas week into New Years. We dont need to know what PDO # you stay at and what you're eating tonight, we dont need to stop by and we dont need to know what people are catching in July. Please focus and answer the OP's questions. 1. Where to fish from shore? 2. What to expect to catch? 3. Provide other useful information. Thank you.


As usual, and we never know when, the Mexico Joe Time Bomb just went off!

Joe, take a chill pill and come down off your righteous indignation high horse. Geeez... While Angler did ask a question about fishing, he also provided other information about his history with RP, where he will be staying, and so on. I find it kind and refreshing when other generous posters offer a chance to meet or come over for a drink. It's called human decency and hospitality. Give it a try Joe and you might pick up a few friends.

And, to prove the point, Angler replied in the affirmative and with thanks to the offers and information other than perfectly staying on point as you hypocritically point out. If there is anyone who has been more mean spirited, sarcastic and has hi-jacked posts, it has been you.

Truth hurts sometimes.
GV Jack
Kenny said:
You've came a long way Roberto.


You bet he has. He was never that specific with me. Just look for the tower he says.

I'm looking for the tower and the cops are looking for me. Bam, 50 bucks later, I'm a free man.
Roberto
GV Jack said:
You bet he has. He was never that specific with me. Just look for the tower he says.

I'm looking for the tower and the cops are looking for me. Bam, 50 bucks later, I'm a free man.


Ross said you could not drive and chew gum at the same time. so it's my fault now eh??
GV Jack
We better knock it off, here comes the thread police.
Last edited: Nov 9, 2012 at 3:56 PM
Mexico Joe
rplarry said:
As usual, and we never know when, the Mexico Joe Time Bomb just went off!

Joe, take a chill pill and come down off your righteous indignation high horse. Geeez... While Angler did ask a question about fishing, he also provided other information about his history with RP, where he will be staying, and so on. I find it kind and refreshing when other generous posters offer a chance to meet or come over for a drink. It's called human decency and hospitality. Give it a try Joe and you might pick up a few friends.

And, to prove the point, Angler replied in the affirmative and with thanks to the offers and information other than perfectly staying on point as you hypocritically point out. If there is anyone who has been more mean spirited, sarcastic and has hi-jacked posts, it has been you.

Truth hurts sometimes.



SMH Larry I can't tell, is this the correct shade of blue? l
azfish
The favorite trailer park lure is.

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dmcauley
And Mexico Joe needed to tell the world he voted for the loser before he answered.

Fishing is great in the winter offshore and surffishing, Thats the best answer I've got.
angler
I am so proud of my first post.

Good advice, insults, drama, inside jokes - awesome.
Roberto
angler said:
I am so proud of my first post.

Good advice, insults, drama, inside jokes - awesome.


You seem to have the atributes to function on this sometimes bizzare and funny forum.
angler
Oh and offers for free drinks. How did I forget that?
GV Jack
Roberto said:
You seem to have the atributes to function on this sometimes bizzare and funny forum.


And there ya go changin the subject again. Man you are in for it now.
:sharks:
Last edited: Nov 10, 2012 at 2:26 PM
jerry
I have been practicing on my paddle board..still wobbily,,,but dream of fly fishing from it at the spit...
angler
jerry said:
I have been practicing on my paddle board..still wobbily,,,but dream of fly fishing from it at the spit...


What/where is the spit?
Roberto
Jerry drools a lot, especially when paddle boarding, which is actually a variant of water boarding, at least the way Jerry does it.
jerry
Roberto said:
Jerry drools a lot, especially when paddle boarding, which is actually a variant of water boarding, at least the way Jerry does it.


really true.....I almost confessed.....Angler...15 miles North of Las Dunas development at Santo Tomas great place...tide rushes in the small opening and fills up the area behind the dunes.
bigfootbill
fishing is the greates thing in the world. If you need a place to stay email me privatly.
bigfootbillb@gmail.com
angler
jerry said:
really true.....I almost confessed.....Angler...15 miles North of Las Dunas development at Santo Tomas great place...tide rushes in the small opening and fills up the area behind the dunes.


I can't locate either Las Dunas or Santo Tomas via Google. Where are they?
Wood Spinner
mexico joe , notice no caps,<br><br>I sure don't know about your attitude. &nbsp;May be you got rebuffed last night.<br><br>I may not have given a proper answer of a couple of names of fish only but I did give a welcome answer to a new person and an invitation to join other members and stop by and see us when we are there. &nbsp;You can put your inflammatory&nbsp;answer any where you want but I would guess you know where I think it should go. &nbsp;We are a fine group of people and we do not need your negative &nbsp;type of response. &nbsp;If you did not like our answers you should give your input to his question in any form you desire. &nbsp;Please be more of a group member.
Roberto
Santo Tomas - Welcome
angler
So that is the next bay/estuary south of La Pinta? And the spit is the southern or northern barrier peninsula? It looks like you can get to the northern spit from La Pinta. Is there a road out onto the southern spit? Doesn't look like there is much of one on google satellite.
Roberto
No, it is quite a bit further down the coast, Jerry, help out here !!
angler
I created a Google Map of the locations we are discussing, if that helps - https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF&msa=0&msid=200344742679430468762.0004ce4d63ca8598a9031

Anyone should be able to edit it, so add your favorite spot. If you add an access or fishing location, mark it with a fishing icon and put anything in the notes you feel is relevant.
rockyptjoe
angler said:
Oh and offers for free drinks. How did I forget that?

You forgot Bill's (Wood Spinner) invite to his fish fry!
angler
rockyptjoe said:
You forgot Bill's (Wood Spinner) invite to his fish fry!


Right. Unfortunately we won't arrive until about a month later.......
Mexico Joe
Wood Spinner said:
mexico joe , notice no caps,<br><br>I sure don't know about your attitude. &nbsp;May be you got rebuffed last night.<br><br>I may not have given a proper answer of a couple of names of fish only but I did give a welcome answer to a new person and an invitation to join other members and stop by and see us when we are there. &nbsp;You can put your inflammatory&nbsp;answer any where you want but I would guess you know where I think it should go. &nbsp;We are a fine group of people and we do not need your negative &nbsp;type of response. &nbsp;If you did not like our answers you should give your input to his question in any form you desire. &nbsp;Please be more of a group member.



:o:fail:

Guy sez, "where can I get some shrimp in the malecon?" WS sez, "Super Ley has an excellent variety of toothpaste, stop on by PDO afterwords spot #63."
Mexico Joe
angler said:
Right. Unfortunately we won't arrive until about a month later.......



:think: LOL
Mexico Joe
dmcauley said:
And Mexico Joe needed to tell the world he voted for the loser before he answered.

Fishing is great in the winter offshore and surffishing, Thats the best answer I've got.


Ironic coming from the guy that voted for the guy that actually lost.
moore_rb
Fishing forum....

FISHING.


F-I-S-H-I-N-G.


F........I......S......H......I.....N.....G

fish·ing/ˈfiSHiNG/





Noun:




1) The activity of catching fish, either for food or as a sport.
2) A strategy used by guys for picking up chicks on the beach using a football. The method is to send the best looking male out for a "long bomb" pass, and then deliberately throw the football into the intended group of targeted babes, and to use the incident to kick off conversation and social interaction between the 2 groups.




angler
OK. Now I have to make another comment. It seems the proliferation of off-topic posts is now being driven by those complaining about how off-topic this thread has become. Sorta hypocritical, but I digress.

Back on topic: Somebody edit my map for goodness sake!

I'm going to go mix a cocktail (it's 5pm on the east coast) and tie some flies. Some high tie sardines, some shrimp and some crabs.
Roberto
What someone marked as Estero La Pinta parking and fishing on the map is inaccurate. The site marked is San Jorge. Follow the beach up into the estuary you will see one structure where a road ends. That is Gillespie's old abandoned hacienda and the road in from the highway. Notice how there is a narrow channel along the beach on the map. There is a real good flow there as the tide changes. That's where you will come in to using the earlier directions of the abandoned house and the place to fish from, not San Jorge. There is or was a gate at the entrance to San Jorge and people living in a house at the entrance. There are a lot more houses there and that big old complex that they used to run the boat tours out of. The belly dancers ! Couldn't figure out how to fix it.
Last edited: Nov 13, 2012 at 4:06 PM
playaperro
I would not fish by the place that says where Kenny's fish scaring outfit pic was taken, plenty more fish out in the santa clara area than Penasco, The Pic where the fish scarin took place Santo Tomas is fried.
lagrimas85
playaperro said:
I would not fish by the place that says where Kenny's fish scaring outfit pic was taken, plenty more fish out in the santa clara area than Penasco, The Pic where the fish scarin took place Santo Tomas is fried.


They get some good size flounder and big curvina, and certain times of the year big grouper, not too far out in front of Los Paradones. In the area you're talking about. There is a camp just north of Los Paradones, the panga fisherman use to load they're catch on trucks headed north. There are also big boats that fish the area and unload they're catch on pangas, that take the catch to the fish camp. Another good spot for me at times, coming from the baja side were the deep holes around the Roca Konsag, a small island between Penasco and San Felipe......44 miles from Penasco,22 from San Felipe The bigger Sierra are there in August, we used to catch them by the boat load. Trolling, with my brother in laws homemade from old car antenna lures. he was born in San Felipe and a fisherman on the Sea of Cortez his whole life.
Last edited: Nov 13, 2012 at 5:04 PM
dmcauley
Let us know when your going out on your yak sometime joe, love to "wake" you up,
Kenny
angler said:
OK. Now I have to make another comment. It seems the proliferation of off-topic posts is now being driven by those complaining about how off-topic this thread has become. Sorta hypocritical, but I digress.

Back on topic: Somebody edit my map for goodness sake!

I'm going to go mix a cocktail (it's 5pm on the east coast) and tie some flies. Some high tie sardines, some shrimp and some crabs.

I couldn't figure out (I hate to admit this) how to edit the map. You have the spit close but no Banana. It's on the south side of the long peninsula at the armpit if you will, right where it ends when looking from height. If you goggle down you can see where it go's in, and turns. It looks like a dark shadow where it turns behind the dunes. When your looking at the pictures below, the sand hill on the other side of the water is actually the end and the backside of the long peninsula. The picture with the wet sand that comes to a point, is the entrance to the little estuary, the spit. The other is my Jeep and Jerry's Quad sitting at the entrance.SantoTomas-207.jpg
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Mexico Joe
Kenny said:
I couldn't figure out (I hate to admit this) how to edit the map. You have the spit close but no Banana. It's on the south side of the long peninsula at the armpit if you will, right where it ends when looking from height. If you goggle down you can see where it go's in, and turns. It looks like a dark shadow where it turns behind the dunes. When your looking at the pictures below, the sand hill on the other side of the water is actually the end and the backside of the long peninsula. The picture with the wet sand that comes to a point, is the entrance to the little estuary, the spit. The other is my Jeep and Jerry's Quad sitting at the entrance.SantoTomas-207.jpg



Kenny, that exactly where I put the damn dot!
Mexico Joe
playaperro said:
I would not fish by the place that says where Kenny's fish scaring outfit pic was taken, plenty more fish out in the santa clara area than Penasco, The Pic where the fish scarin took place Santo Tomas is fried.



Where are good spots to launch a kayak in the Santa Clara/El Golfo area?
Kenny
Mexico Joe said:
Kenny, that exactly where I put the damn dot!

I hadn't looked at it since you edited the damn thing Joe! It had been marked out on the end of the peninsula. Hey, did you get my email the other day, or no?
Mexico Joe
Kenny said:
I hadn't looked at it since you edited the damn thing Joe! It had been marked out on the end of the peninsula. Hey, did you get my email the other day, or no?



Haven't checked, let me see. I just re-edited it and lined the Spit in blue.
Mexico Joe
angler said:
I created a Google Map of the locations we are discussing, if that helps - https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF&msa=0&msid=200344742679430468762.0004ce4d63ca8598a9031

Anyone should be able to edit it, so add your favorite spot. If you add an access or fishing location, mark it with a fishing icon and put anything in the notes you feel is relevant.



The Spit is now marked in Blue
Kenny
Mexico Joe said:
The Spit is now marked in Blue

The angler originally marked the end of the peninsula and asked if that was the spit, that's what I was referring to. Now answer my question.
playaperro
Mexico Joe said:
Where are good spots to launch a kayak in the Santa Clara/El Golfo area?


https://www.facebook.com/pages/El-Golfo-De-Santa-Clara/116881075050146
angler
Roberto said:
What someone marked as Estero La Pinta parking and fishing on the map is inaccurate. The site marked is San Jorge. Follow the beach up into the estuary you will see one structure where a road ends. That is Gillespie's old abandoned hacienda and the road in from the highway. Notice how there is a narrow channel along the beach on the map. There is a real good flow there as the tide changes. That's where you will come in to using the earlier directions of the abandoned house and the place to fish from, not San Jorge. There is or was a gate at the entrance to San Jorge and people living in a house at the entrance. There are a lot more houses there and that big old complex that they used to run the boat tours out of. The belly dancers ! Couldn't figure out how to fix it.


Thanks Roberto. I moved those markers, did I move them to the right place?

Thanks to the others that identified the spit.
angler
Mexico Joe said:
The Spit is now marked in Blue


Awesome!

How do you get out there?

Keep adding spots to the map!
angler
lagrimas85 said:
They get some good size flounder and big curvina, and certain times of the year big grouper, not too far out in front of Los Paradones. In the area you're talking about. There is a camp just north of Los Paradones, the panga fisherman use to load they're catch on trucks headed north. There are also big boats that fish the area and unload they're catch on pangas, that take the catch to the fish camp. Another good spot for me at times, coming from the baja side were the deep holes around the Roca Konsag, a small island between Penasco and San Felipe......44 miles from Penasco,22 from San Felipe The bigger Sierra are there in August, we used to catch them by the boat load. Trolling, with my brother in laws homemade from old car antenna lures. he was born in San Felipe and a fisherman on the Sea of Cortez his whole life.


Excuse my continued ignorance, but where/what is Los Paradones and Santa Clara? Tried Google to no avail.
lagrimas85
angler said:
Excuse my continued ignorance, but where/what is Los Paradones and Santa Clara? Tried Google to no avail.


The Gulf Of Santa Clara - El Golfo de Santa Clara, Sonora, Mexico Los Paradones, is a set of cliffs, with a nice beach to the south and also one to the north and is about 20 or 30 kilometers south of El Golfo. Maybe a 1 hour drive from penasco. It is Ejido Land, there are no signs and I havent been there since 2009. That year there was a big Humboldt squid stuck in a small tide pool, we scooped him up and turned him out to the ocean. i know how to get there, but i dont know how to tell you to get there. It is all 100% virgin beach. The beach to the south where the huge estuary ends is especially pretty and good for fish, if you use cut bait, you will also snag some nice blue crab.
angler
lagrimas85 said:
The Gulf Of Santa Clara - El Golfo de Santa Clara, Sonora, Mexico Los Paradones, is a set of cliffs, with a nice beach to the south and also one to the north and is about 20 or 30 kilometers south of El Golfo. Maybe a 1 hour drive from penasco. It is Ejido Land, there are no signs and I havent been there since 2009. That year there was a big Humboldt squid stuck in a small tide pool, we scooped him up and turned him out to the ocean. i know how to get there, but i dont know how to tell you to get there. It is all 100% virgin beach. The beach to the south where the huge estuary ends is especially pretty and good for fish, if you use cut bait, you will also snag some nice blue crab.


Excellent! When we leave RP, we are headed up the coast highway so this spot is perfect.
lagrimas85
When you are passing thru El Golfo, you might ask about other spots for your next trip down, the Yuma fisherman, are catching lots of nice fish.
Roberto
angler said:
Thanks Roberto. I moved those markers, did I move them to the right place?
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Spot on !! I hate to advertize it, but La Pinta is one of the most beautiful and peaceful places around.
angler
lagrimas85 said:
When you are passing thru El Golfo, you might ask about other spots for your next trip down, the Yuma fisherman, are catching lots of nice fish.


Do tell......
lagrimas85
Fishing in town

Sometimes you don't have to travel far at all, when the corvina, are in town. I watched Rudy Guzman. off the the dock, where he had his boat Lee Lee, and off the dock at the Safe Marina, when he was a partner in the Marina catch lots of them. One night, I was on the dock of the Fonatur Marina, with Tom M. and H2Joe (I sold him and Rhonda they're first water truck ) from Encanto catch a few fish, including a nice flounder. Also where the Mirador trailer park,( LJ's old house) used to be. its a big empty lot now, my cousin used to dive there and talked about the big schools of fish that pass. I have also fished there, there are, puffers, parrot fish, triggers and cabrilla in the rocks. The beach there is nothing but big boulders, but there is an old boat ramp, you can walk down and fish from there. The hill, next to the Reef Trailer Park is probably a good one also, I have'nt, fished from shore there, but I have seen fisherman there and anchored close to the rocky shoreline and caught, pinta,sierra, corvina, triggers,cabrilla,puffer's and a few small grouper, A friend of mine (Boat Builder, Shrimper and fisherman) told me years ago, the biggest fish he ever caught, in Penasco was out in that area it was a 400 pound Totuava.
lagrimas85
History of the Totoaba: Mexico's Gigantic, Marlin-Sized Croaker Article mentions harpooning these huge fish from the beach. i am sure they still hang out close to shore sometimes, but nobody fishes for them (because its illegal), just like the 7 rock 15 minutes out from port in May and June we catch big grouper there, i mentioned this to seadweller one time, and he said they get all kinds of nice fish there.
playaperro
totoaba.jpgAccidental Catch off long lines I take it.
Last edited: Nov 15, 2012 at 9:36 AM
angler
Wahoo said:
Angler; good job on the Map. Some other good ads are the oyster place and Pelican Point. Can you add pictures?


I think the only way to add a picture is to select an image hosted on another web site as a placemark. You are limited to 64x64 pixels, so any detail will likely be lost.

I'm no Google map expert however.

playaperro said:
Accidental Catch off long lines I take it.


If it was accidental, they accidentally caught a bunch of them as you can see in the tote and on the floor.......
Mexico Joe
angler said:
Awesome!

How do you get out there?

Keep adding spots to the map!



You go through Santo Tomas and then drive North up the beach.
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lagrimas85
552019_375002752568917_1271168150_n.jpg Here is another, like your totuava picture. This was confiscated in Obregon, not to long ago. Enough to make me sick, poor animals.
seatrout
I was panga fishing in San Felipe a few years back and there was a buddy boat that caught a Totoaba about 2 miles off shore. I told our fishing guide i thought it was illegal to keep Totoaba in Mexico. His response: "eh you can take 1 or 2".
rplarry
seatrout said:
I was panga fishing in San Felipe a few years back and there was a buddy boat that caught a Totoaba about 2 miles off shore. I told our fishing guide i thought it was illegal to keep Totoaba in Mexico. His response: "eh you can take 1 or 2".


I have been offered Totoaba many times down at the fish market on the Melecon. They are pretty regularly caught in the nets. Not as big as that one in the pics. Usually, the "seller" will offer a few filets and then freeze the rest for his own eating later.