Towards the end of this month we'll be making a trip to Port Lobos, and since I've never been there and some of you Ladies and Gentlemen have and information you could share would be great!
For instance, is drinking water and ice readily available?
We'll be down there for about a week and would you guys recommend taking a tt (and generator) for living quarters (shower, cooking, sleeping) and fish out of inflatables or skip the tt idea and take down a larger boat and inflatables, and camp on the shore?
Your best bet would be to contact asprinkleshere on the forum he has a place down there and has been there more than any of us I would venture to say...
Puerto Lobos is one windy Bahia, pretty sure I can get someone on here to second that. You never know when the wind is going to kick up. Why risk it if you don't
know the wind condition and area. Rent a boat ask around, you will be glad you did.
Your best bet would be to contact asprinkleshere on the forum he has a place down there and has been there more than any of us I would venture to say...
I contacted Leigh last week and we've email back and forth quite a bit. I'd asked him about the little store, but we got off on other subjects and never got back to it. I also have the names of a couple of local fishermen besides Ted and Tom who would be available if that's the route we wanted to go. I also have a ace in the hole in Santo Tomas (Jerry's place) and with the new hwy it's a short drive.
I've spent the first part of June down in Santo Tomas the past 4 years or so, and there's no question that it can get windy down that way in the spring, but right now it's all positive vibes. We're due!
Kenny there is a sort of store/gas from a drum place....beer too if a person needs a sun headache.Don screw hauling all that stuff..just use my place half the time..I hope to make it down for a few days with my new Auction bargain ATV...if it works out...I'm bringing Robertos cooktop down so plan on stopping off to pee in the pool at one of the planet killing unfinished faulty Condo towers too.
I contacted Leigh last week and we've email back and forth quite a bit. I'd asked him about the little store, but we got off on other subjects and never got back to it. I also have the names of a couple of local fishermen besides Ted and Tom who would be available if that's the route we wanted to go. I also have a ace in the hole in Santo Tomas (Jerry's place) and with the new hwy it's a short drive.
I've spent the first part of June down in Santo Tomas the past 4 years or so, and there's no question that it can get windy down that way in the spring, but right now it's all positive vibes. We're due!
Kenny... right out in front of Leigh's between his place and the end of the point the lighthouse is on, is some of the coolest free diving I've done here in the Sea of Cortez... be sure to bring a mask, snorkel and fins and check it out at low tide... we saw everything from Cortez damsils to a manta ray... it was Awesome...
Kenny... right out in front of Leigh's between his place and the end of the point the lighthouse is on, is some of the coolest free diving I've done here in the Sea of Cortez... be sure to bring a mask, snorkel and fins and check it out at low tide... we saw everything from Cortez damsils to a manta ray... it was Awesome...
You posted a video of that dive drift didn't you Mark?
Thanks again Mark for posting that video- I always kept that in mind, but thought Lobos was too far away. Now with the Coastal Highway, it's only an hour and a half from our house in Miramar, so I can't wait to try snorkeling there. Also, someone posted incredible pictures from fishing tuna- are there fisherman who take people out fishing?
Thanks again Mark for posting that video- I always kept that in mind, but thought Lobos was too far away. Now with the Coastal Highway, it's only an hour and a half from our house in Miramar, so I can't wait to try snorkeling there. Also, someone posted incredible pictures from fishing tuna- are there fisherman who take people out fishing?
Kenny there is a sort of store/gas from a drum place
We drove past that place last year but couldn't tell what all they had Jerry, but it didn't look like much. Joe and I didn't get a chance to fish at all if you remember, because of the wind. We waited around for Ted a little, he was to be right back, but he didn't show. We did get a chance to meet and speak briefly with Leigh, but he was about ready to head out. Timing is everything.
Hey Mark,
I tried to find your video, saw the of the lighthouse, but no drift dive. Do you remember the date? Both my Son and I dive so; Kenny are you up to a shallow dive, really shallow?
Here you go Don... we did this free diving... but it would be awesome scuba diving... we were in the water for over 2 hours and it seemed like 15 minute... you know how that goes... "How time flies when you're having FUN"
Thanks a lot Dan.....Don gave him a call and found out he's not doing the charter deal any longer and that's why his sites down, but he had some good info and insights about Lobo's for us.
Cool video Mark!
Thanks posting it again. My Son and I just finished watching it, and we're definitely taking snorkel gear. Kenny, do you have any gear?
Yes Dan, thank you!
Ted was quite helpful and will be there at the same time. So, we'll snag up (intended), learn about Lobos, fish, snorkel, dive (Kenny?) and enjoy Mexico.
Thanks again Mark for posting that video- I always kept that in mind, but thought Lobos was too far away. Now with the Coastal Highway, it's only an hour and a half from our house in Miramar, so I can't wait to try snorkeling there. Also, someone posted incredible pictures from fishing tuna- are there fisherman who take people out fishing?
NO HAY TUNA, they are NOT tuna. Yellowtail Im pretty sure are in the Jack family...
Kenny there is a sort of store/gas from a drum place....beer too if a person needs a sun headache.Don screw hauling all that stuff..just use my place half the time..I hope to make it down for a few days with my new Auction bargain ATV...if it works out...I'm bringing Robertos cooktop down so plan on stopping off to pee in the pool at one of the planet killing unfinished faulty Condo towers too.
If we're talking about the gas from a drum place in ST dont count on that being reliable because I couldnt find it and I barely made it back to las conchas on fumes!!! The two gallons Jerry siphoned out of something for me actually saved my ass!!! Next time down that way Ill make sure I have a full tank before heading south!!
If we're talking about the gas from a drum place in ST dont count on that being reliable because I couldnt find it and I barely made it back to las conchas on fumes!!! The two gallons Jerry siphoned out of something for me actually saved my ass!!! Next time down that way Ill make sure I have a full tank before heading south!!
Next time you might think about cutting back to the Y as I suggested..LOL
Cool video Mark!
Thanks posting it again. My Son and I just finished watching it, and we're definitely taking snorkel gear. Kenny, do you have any gear?
de nada Don... be sure to go out during low tide and you may want to wear a weight belt to get to the bottom faster... most of that video was shot in water between 20 to 30 feet... I wear 10 pounds and I think Rick was wearing the same... that octopus we were playing with was in a shell, when I picked up the shell I had to push myself up off the bottom to get back to the surface or leave the shell behind, I think I was weighted just enough... have fun I'm sure you will enjoy it...
Being a Charter Captain must make you get really sick of guys that come down from Phoenix just to "Slay Fish" take a few...leave the rest
That was part of it, but it was also about getting tired of being blamed for the fact that it's too windy to have a safe day on the water; or feeling the pressure to produce biting fish when the fish are not there to cooperate, and then hearing about from the people "who planned this trip for months", or "drove all the way down there for nothing".... as if Ted is the master of fish, and weather.
You might be waiting until the water cools back down in November/December unless you run farther south to San Carlos... The yellowtail usually move away from Lobos sometime in April when the water goes above 65 degrees.
You will love Puerto Lobos! I've been there twice and will go back again! Just watch out for the outhouse with rusty nails.... LOL! Next time I'm peeing behind a panga......
Next time you might think about cutting back to the Y as I suggested..LOL
I dont think so Kenny!!! I felt unwanted in that little town, just about every single person was staring me down like I was an alien!! Talk about an uneasy feeling, I dont think Ive ever felt like that before in Mexico. I pretty sure you remember what Im talking about because you kept asking me if I was ok and I kept saying yes but that was all lies. I wanted out of that little town so bad, I hadnt eaten in like 4 days and I told you i wasnt hungry just to get out of that situation!! No chance in hell I'd go back that way to get gas, INLAND = Narcotics... next time Ill just take an extra fuel jug!
naw Joe the town is cool now...the old Pemex next to the Pharmacy is run by friends of Rosy.You can buy gas in the ejido(I'll email you the map)
Mexico Joe said:
I dont think so Kenny!!! I felt unwanted in that little town, just about every single person was staring me down like I was an alien!! Talk about an uneasy feeling, I dont think Ive ever felt like that before in Mexico. I pretty sure you remember what Im talking about because you kept asking me if I was ok and I kept saying yes but that was all lies. I wanted out of that little town so bad, I hadnt eaten in like 4 days and I told you i wasnt hungry just to get out of that situation!! No chance in hell I'd go back that way to get gas, INLAND = Narcotics... next time Ill just take an extra fuel jug!
I dont think so Kenny!!! I felt unwanted in that little town, just about every single person was staring me down like I was an alien!! Talk about an uneasy feeling, I dont think Ive ever felt like that before in Mexico. I pretty sure you remember what Im talking about because you kept asking me if I was ok and I kept saying yes but that was all lies. I wanted out of that little town so bad, I hadnt eaten in like 4 days and I told you i wasnt hungry just to get out of that situation!! No chance in hell I'd go back that way to get gas, INLAND = Narcotics... next time Ill just take an extra fuel jug!
I dont think so Kenny!!! I felt unwanted in that little town, just about every single person was staring me down like I was an alien!! Talk about an uneasy feeling, I dont think Ive ever felt like that before in Mexico. I pretty sure you remember what Im talking about because you kept asking me if I was ok and I kept saying yes but that was all lies. I wanted out of that little town so bad, I hadnt eaten in like 4 days and I told you i wasnt hungry just to get out of that situation!! No chance in hell I'd go back that way to get gas, INLAND = Narcotics... next time Ill just take an extra fuel jug!
I'm not sure I'm with you there Joe. I'm not talking about where we bought the ice on the way out of Jerry's, but up on the road to Caborca. That would be La Y Griega on 37.
If one has not ventured to Lobos and the surrounding areas, I would HIGHLY recommend that one buys gas in Rocky Point or Sonoita before venturing to Lobos.
If one has not ventured to Lobos and the surrounding areas, I would HIGHLY recommend that one buys gas in Rocky Point or Sonoita before venturing to Lobos.
Yep, I always top off before heading down that way, and then sometimes again at La Y Griega and then doubling back to Santo Tomas. I put so many miles on the beach down there (ST) I need a full tank when I get there. Lobos is going to be a little trickier, but I won't be driving 28 mile round trips on the beach to the estuary either.
It's about 120 miles each way from the Mirador area.....depending on your vehicle you should have no problems with a fill up before you leave Penasco.....Eduardo with his big 15 passenger van full of people made it there and back with some riding around at Porto Lobos. If you don't take the new highway bypass near Santo Tomas (it wasn't open the last time a bunch of us went down in Feb.), there is a Pemex at the T by the Caborca turnoff (on the old stretch of road...sorry if the directions aren't the best).
I'm not sure I'm with you there Joe. I'm not talking about where we bought the ice on the way out of Jerry's, but up on the road to Caborca. That would be La Y Griega on 37.
Crap I completely forgot about the ice situation too!!! That was a little tense too IMO when a truck full of Mexicans pulls up and by truck full I mean literally like 16 Mexican males all wearing bandanas on their face and EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM was staring at me. One of the guys gets out and hes just standing there talking to the driver about something. It was a little sketchy to say the least and this guy never went into the store it was weird and they all just kept staring at me. I was like well they are obviously waiting to kill this store owner or spray up the store and are waiting for the AMERICANOS to leave so there isnt any COLLATERAL damage. I mean thats how scary these guys looked. We iced up and left and took the short cut through the dirt road ( unfinished section of the new highway) and we drove past a cement making plant. I remember thinking ok now that makes sense, thats obviously why those guys were wearing bandanas they pry were working at the cement plant. At the time though I was scared as hell. Now the Y GRIEGA on the other hand I WAS NOT WANTED THERE and this wasnt my perception. I told Jose from Boo Bar about my experience at the Y GRIEGA and he confirmed that yes there are a lot of drugs that go through that town. It was a bit sketchy...
Because Im very good with intrapersonal communication and I could feel it. Every single mother f#CK3R there was staring at me NO JOKE. Im like Im sure Im not the first white boy they have seen. I definitely wasnt going to start speaking any spanish. A guy this white that speaks pretty good spanish means to them that I prolly work for the CIA... it was unreal, Ive never felt that way in MY LIFE!!!!!
To clarify, NO THERE IS NOT READILY AVAILABLE GAS IN LOBOS
EDIT: If by readily available you mean a gas station. Yea Im sure you can find someone that will siphon some gas out of a drum in their front yard for the right price but I wouldnt count on that. Definitely bring gas with you. I have a 5 gallon race jug that I had from my motocross days that Ill start using...
Crap I completely forgot about the ice situation too!!! That was a little tense too IMO when a truck full of Mexicans pulls up and by truck full I mean literally like 16 Mexican males all wearing bandanas on their face and EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM was staring at me. One of the guys gets out and hes just standing there talking to the driver about something. It was a little sketchy to say the least and this guy never went into the store it was weird and they all just kept staring at me. I was like well they are obviously waiting to kill this store owner or spray up the store and are waiting for the AMERICANOS to leave so there isnt any COLLATERAL damage. I mean thats how scary these guys looked. We iced up and left and took the short cut through the dirt road ( unfinished section of the new highway) and we drove past a cement making plant. I remember thinking ok now that makes sense, thats obviously why those guys were wearing bandanas they pry were working at the cement plant. At the time though I was scared as hell. Now the Y GRIEGA on the other hand I WAS NOT WANTED THERE and this wasnt my perception. I told Jose from Boo Bar about my experience at the Y GRIEGA and he confirmed that yes there are a lot of drugs that go through that town. It was a bit sketchy...
I don't know where to start with this but first there was not 16 in the truck, and the reason they had bandanna's on is because they were riding in the back of the truck coming in from the new road under construction, a dirt road! I thought it was very likely they were a work crew for the new road. They were buying Popsicles for crying out loud.LOL Second they were staring at you because unlike in the states they were not afraid to look at you using your walker. They were also wondering how in the hell you could drive your truck because you were still pretty new at using the walker, and still kind of shaky with it. Curious, they were curious and not afraid like people are in the states to look and see how this guy is going to do stuff. That's all it was Joe, the whole time, and at both places.
also the Pemex in Libertad is 30 miles South and a good spot for lunch
Kenny you do know Sicarios like Popsicles too don't you? The seasonal squid harvesting rush brings in people from everywhere but they make more money than we do on a good day...
also the Pemex in Libertad is 30 miles South and a good spot for lunch
Kenny you do know Sicarios like Popsicles too don't you? The seasonal squid harvesting rush brings in people from everywhere but they make more money than we do on a good day...
Because Im very good with intrapersonal communication and I could feel it. Every single mother f#CK3R there was staring at me NO JOKE. Im like Im sure Im not the first white boy they have seen. I definitely wasnt going to start speaking any spanish. A guy this white that speaks pretty good spanish means to them that I prolly work for the CIA... it was unreal, Ive never felt that way in MY LIFE!!!!!
Kenny is just down playing it!
Now I feel ya. I dont think we will be going that way any time soon.
Now I feel ya. I dont think we will be going that way any time soon.
Don't get scared off by Mex. Joe's experience...or paranoia.... :rofl:.....sorry Joe, I couldn't resist....and don't get pissy about it.... Maybe you just don't want anyone else discovering the place???? :stir:
I've been that way twice, and neither time did I feel threatened, or anything else...Ladyjeeper can attest to both trips.....
I've been twice and there is nothing to be afraid of. I had no problems in La Ygriega either. No one stared at me and trust me, I am 6 foot tall and take up all the space I stand in.....Go to puerto lobos. You will love it!
Now I don't care if the fish or anyone else heads down that way or not, but I can tell you that I headed down that way looking for a new fishing hole soon after it was opened up as a free zone about what, eight years ago? My X wife and I (yes just the two of us) explored the area around Santo Tomas a couple of three years before I ever knew Jerry, and hit back roads looking for a way to the coast all throughout that area. Some of you might remember my post on our original forum about the little village "ejido" I went through way back then. I posted about how they had to put in dirt speed bumps because of the speeding ugly Americans. That's the same little village where Joe and I were getting ice years later for our fish on the way out of Jerry's, and yes, there's still ugly Ameicans :clown: down that way.:mrgreen:
Thanks for posting this thread, and for the diving video. We went down on Saturday for snorkeling, and had a great time. We didn't see as much as you Seadweller, but we did see a lot of very large Sergeant Majors, star fish, one Sea of Cortez Angel fish, sting rays, and a 12" skinny fish with a blue and purple tail. The water was a little rough, so next time I might try snorkeling on the north side of the light house- don't know if that's as good. I think we were in front of Asprinkles house (beautiful porch and painted doors and windows), so we picked up a bunch of plastic bottles right by the steps. The view was spectacular looking out over the Sea of Cortez! It took 90 minutes to get down and longer to get up as they have an inspection set up and had to get out of the car.
Leigh, again thank you for letting us enjoy your perfect Mexican casa and walk down your steps. You must just pull up your chairs on your porch and thoroughly enjoy the magnificent sunsets. The view reminded me of something from California with the dark blue of the ocean and the sun sparkling on the water. Just to let you know, when we were in Sonoyta (El Serape eating tacos) we were talking to a couple from Santo Tomas, and they said the new Coastal Highway road opening up saved them 20 minutes off the ride.
Forgot to add, the couple from Santo Tomas said they took a trip to Bird Island last weekend and saw a 50' whale shark! I remember someone posting a video of a whale shark off Sandy Beach but I don't think he was that big.