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New trouble on the road between Sonoyta and Puerto Penasco

Started by jerry · Oct 26, 2011 · 72 replies
jerry
http://www.elimparcial.com/EdicionEnLinea/Notas/Policiaca/26102011/550311.aspx

crap I thought this thing had been sorted out....
GringoZona
This Google translation actually is readable:
**WHOOPS! Sorry I posted the Spanish version by accident before.**

A total of nine dead bodies with gunshot wounds and his hands tied behind their backs, were located in the towns of Agua Prieta and Sonoyta, at dawn yesterday.

The spokesman for the Attorney General of the State (PGJE), Jose Larrinaga Talamantes, mentioned that the first discovery occurred in the limits of Sonora, Chihuahua, on the property called Port San Luis.

"In the place were found three male persons of color in black bags, these have not been identified and is presumed to originate from the neighboring state," he said.

According to initial investigations, it appears that the bodies were left on that site from the neighboring state.

"It is clear from other investigations that have been integrated for events in that same area, indicating those who have appeared there were built and executed in the State of Chihuahua and came to leave the premises referred" he said.

Six more deaths in Sonoyta

Minutes after a gap located in proximity to the highway from Sonoita to Puerto Peñasco is located six more bodies, he added.

"The six people had injuries from assault rifle rounds and apparently the execution took place in that place because it was located 25 caps x39 7.62 mm caliber AK-47 and about four of R-15," he said.

Four of the bodies were identified as Aldo Efrain Huerta Solorio, 21, a native of Culiacan, Sinaloa and residing in Bahia del Rosario, Baja California Norte, Juan Carlos Olivas Zazueta, 21, originally from Culiacan, Sinaloa, where he had his home.

Among the belongings of another victim was found identification on behalf of Alvaro Olivas Zazueta, 32, residing in Culiacan, Sinaloa, the other brought documents on behalf of Moreno Aurelio Vasquez, 22, a native of Culiacan, Sinaloa.

After the discovery, was located 200 meters from the Federal Highway on the same gap, a vehicle apparently Ford, totally incinerated.

"The other two bodies have not been identified but all are from Sinaloa, six hands were tied back and had bullet wounds in different parts of just being initiated investigations but there is every indication that they are members organized crime, "he said.
Last edited: Oct 26, 2011 at 11:14 AM
jerry
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Fck-the-Drug-War/185249808186827 I went to this talk at the U of A...pretty good stuff
rockyptjoe
the Sonora mob giving the Sinoloa mob a message????
moore_rb
rockyptjoe said:
the Sonora mob giving the Sinoloa mob a message????


or vice versa...?
Mexico Joe
There is no Sonora mob. Sonora is controlled by the Sinaloa drug cartel...
Mexico Joe
This sounds like Zetas
jerry
Maybe the new cartel Gilo works for?
http://www.fronterasdesk.org/news/2011/jul/11/drug-war-and-cartels-lead-exodus-northern-mexico/
http://www.borderlandbeat.com/2010/01/maps-of-mexico-cartels.html
Mexico Joe said:
This sounds like Zetas
Mexico Joe
This guy Gilo sounds like hes out of the movie Desperado with Antonio Banderas. Whats in the guitar case?!
Mexico Joe
Looks like GILO was taken out Jerry, last year looks like in July of 10.

http://borderreporter.com/2010/07/arde-sonora/
jerry
I think that guy had it wrong....Gilo still controls from Tubutama to Saric to the res. and lets the highest bidder get the loads through I heard he's very much alive from someone who came that way 3 weeks ago.
Mexico Joe said:
Looks like GILO was taken out Jerry, last year looks like in July of 10.

http://borderreporter.com/2010/07/arde-sonora/
dmcauley
You guys seem to no toooo much for your own good. This is a public forum
Mexico Joe
dmcauley said:
You guys seem to no toooo much for your own good. This is a public forum



First of all, its KNOW and secondly the narcos dont give a <WASH MY MOUTH OUT WITH SOAP><WASH MY MOUTH OUT WITH SOAP><WASH MY MOUTH OUT WITH SOAP><WASH MY MOUTH OUT WITH SOAP> that Jerry and I talk about them. Im just an American white boy that loves him some Mexico. The narcos dont care about Americans, only if it involves business...
moore_rb
oh boy... might be time to break out the:popcorn:
rockyptjoe
I just love reading the posts/comments from all these people who think they are "in the know" as to what is happening (Borderreporter, etc.)....they're even on a first name basis with the head narcos!!!:blah:

Probably makes them feel important....or something!
jerry
Borderreporter is a dead site.Some of the commenters were cartel guys.Some of the info was disinformation.I posted this because it's our route to the beach and it had been cool for 6 weeks.Some were hoping it was all settled.i think if you have a group of buddies(young guys) traveling in a suv this month it might not be a bad idea to make yourself visible so no mistaken identity accidents happen.
rockyptjoe said:
I just love reading the posts/comments from all these people who think they are "in the know" as to what is happening (Borderreporter, etc.)....they're even on a first name basis with the head narcos!!!:blah:

Probably makes them feel important....or something!
rockyptjoe
So..no dark tinted windows on your dark suv????
dmcauley
Thanks for the spelling lesson Joe but in my 30+ years in RP I KNOW better to talk about things that don't involve me and I KNOW there are people that visit this forum that don't like to be talked about. Just my 2 cents
Ladyjeeper
I've got 46 years in Penasco and I'm with you, Dan.
jerry
Mexico Joe said:
This guy Gilo sounds like hes out of the movie Desperado with Antonio Banderas. Whats in the guitar case?!

"And then, Gilo comes.

“Who are you looking for? Gilo? I'm Gilo,” the man says as he approaches.

He's a large man; huge. Blonde hair clipped short, wearing a black button-down and strings of bright yellow and orange plastic beads. He's driving a beat-up maroon pickup truck with five men inside. Six men sit in the bed, staring like cats. Their hands grasp the rails of the truck as if they're ready to leap out. His eyes are blue and he's angry. At the government, he says.

“The government brought in mercenaries,” Gilo said in Spanish. “They're arming a war.”

He’s prepared, he says.

Man if Ernest Hemingway was alive he'd be in mexico getting this story..
These guys need to make a deal but until then i sort of think someone should note to visitors that it's heating up again...
Mexico Joe
jerry said:
"And then, Gilo comes.

“Who are you looking for? Gilo? I'm Gilo,” the man says as he approaches.

He's a large man; huge. Blonde hair clipped short, wearing a black button-down and strings of bright yellow and orange plastic beads. He's driving a beat-up maroon pickup truck with five men inside. Six men sit in the bed, staring like cats. Their hands grasp the rails of the truck as if they're ready to leap out. His eyes are blue and he's angry. At the government, he says.

“The government brought in mercenaries,” Gilo said in Spanish. “They're arming a war.”

He’s prepared, he says.

Man if Ernest Hemingway was alive he'd be in mexico getting this story..
These guys need to make a deal but until then i sort of think someone should note to visitors that it's heating up again...



Ernest Hemingway lolololol from old man in the sea to old man in the mountains... I just want all the "visitors" of this site to KNOW that Im cool with you. I love the Sinaloa product, its exceptional and to Gilo, more power to you brother! Dont let society put you in a box lololol!!! Im just going to start driving down the highway with a big ass american flag flying above my truck. Luckily I drive Japanese and they dont go after the jap trucks so I should be good.
dmcauley
LOL, lets go out fishing sometime Joe and I'll show you where the big ones live,
Mexico Joe
dmcauley said:
LOL, lets go out fishing sometime Joe and I'll show you where the big ones live,



Lol anytime sir!
Mexico Joe
Mexico Joe said:
Lol anytime sir!


Ill be Manolin and you can be Santiago. Just as long as we dont have to hand line any fish...
jerry
The battle of Tubutama and it's aftermath would make a great movie.My pick to play El Gilo....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cain_Velasquez
Mexico Joe said:
Ernest Hemingway lolololol from old man in the sea to old man in the mountains... I just want all the "visitors" of this site to KNOW that Im cool with you. I love the Sinaloa product, its exceptional and to Gilo, more power to you brother! Dont let society put you in a box lololol!!! Im just going to start driving down the highway with a big ass american flag flying above my truck. Luckily I drive Japanese and they dont go after the jap trucks so I should be good.
rockyptjoe
how about Cheech (or Chong....is he still alive?)....
reportjones
I was driving on the road between Rocky Point and Sonoyta yesterday and passed a tour bus full of Asian's. They told me they had just gotten off a Carnival cruise lines ship and were trying their hardest to find a Chinese food restaurant. I told them the only place I new that served rotten fish is now closed; the Camel Toe.
reportjones
I was sitting on the beach near JJ's on Monday when I saw a Carnival cruise ship pull up. I think I saw Ernest Hemingway get off the boat surrounded by Asian people. There are a lot of drunk people from Cholla Bay who are at JJ's every day. I hope they dont drive because driving a car can be dangerous. Especially near cruise ships.
reportjones
I was sitting on the beach in front of Manny's on Tuesday and saw a Carnival cruise ship pull up. A lot of Asian people started getting off and went into Manny's to try the Combination Plate. Asian people are sure short. I think "Chapo" Guzman was with them because he is short too. Chapo stood out in the crowd because he wasnt wearing white socks with open toe shoes. There was no camera dangling from his neck. Were any of the victims Asian?
Mexico Joe
Jones has absolutely lost it! Hes almost on Happy's level! No more, "I just saw a Carnival Cruise ship pull up", it was funny the first and fifth time now its just ~~~~~~ VIEJO~~~~~~ Pendejo```` !!! On a quick side note and I hope I dont get into trouble for saying this because Im going to quote someone and therefor this shouldnt constitute a violation of the code of conduct policy ``````por``` rockypointtalk.net/com . "Rocky you monkey..." lololol crackin up right now
reportjones
I was at the Zoo on Friday and saw a monkey. Monkeys are funny people. Especially when their name is "Rocky". I think I saw Chapo Guzman feeding the giraffe. He was with a bunch of asian people. Asian people are sure short. I miss Kenny!
cholla
I was sailing the catamaran out in Cholla Bay the other day and was passed by a monkey on a jetski. His hair was purple.
reportjones
I saw that monkey. He came into JJs and bought me a drink. The monkey told me he had been riding a jetski in Cholla Bay. He wanted to know where Kenny was.
playaperro
reportjones said:
I saw that monkey. He came into JJs and bought me a drink. The monkey told me he had been riding a jetski in Cholla Bay. He wanted to know where Kenny was.


Kenny is fighting with Happy over at the race forum...That thread will be removed shortly!http://abcteam.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=5479085&pid=1270372734
Last edited: Oct 30, 2011 at 4:24 PM
Kenny
playaperro said:
Kenny is fighting with Happy over at the race forum...That thread will be removed shortly!http://abcteam.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=5479085&pid=1270372734

And so will Hector.
cholla
The monkey yelled out to me as he went by, he said " I am headed to Thunder on the Beach to meet HAPPY" .... not sure what he meant by that, but the wind was coming up and I had to pay attention to the boat. Last I saw, he was headed to the bar.
Mexico Joe
Kenny said:
And so will Hector.


Kenny, havent heard much out of you lately, everything ok? Are you focusing too much energy on Happy? Since Happy still reads the forum, Happy please stop sending me emails. I dont care about your feuds with Kenny and the others. However, more emails with naked woman are always welcomed...
Mexico Joe
"Hey Rocky, you monkey..."
rockyptjoe
Mexico Joe said:
Kenny, havent heard much out of you lately, everything ok? Are you focusing too much energy on Happy? Since Happy still reads the forum, Happy please stop sending me emails. I dont care about your feuds with Kenny and the others. However, more emails with naked woman are always welcomed...



You getting emails from him too? BTW...his sig on the other Forum is... Jack Stien...........Attorney At Law ...aka Happy....
jerry
when i think about happy's fall the words "Socially Retarded" come to mind.Sort of a knock on our mentally impaired brothers and sisters i'm afraid.The rest of us use the occasional cutting remark to make a point but he seems to have slipped into meanspirited hatefulness...sad
rockyptjoe said:
You getting emails from him too? BTW...his sig on the other Forum is... Jack Stien...........Attorney At Law ...aka Happy....
Kenny
Mexico Joe said:
Kenny, havent heard much out of you lately, everything ok? Are you focusing too much energy on Happy? Since Happy still reads the forum, Happy please stop sending me emails. I dont care about your feuds with Kenny and the others. However, more emails with naked woman are always welcomed...

Heck no I haven't been focusing on Hector or Jack, or whatever his name is. I was out of town since Friday morning for the USAC 2 day sprint car show, and I'll be leaving this Thursday for the Oval Nationals in Cali, a three day show. A bunch of people I know from Cali came over for the show here, and we're all looking forward to the BIG show with another cookout in the camping area next to the track.
I'll be going to the 3 day Westen World show in Tucson in a few weeks as well, and I told Hector on the ABC forum that I'd love to introduce myself to him again:mrgreen:, and to meet me there and where I'll be.
Roberto
jerry said:
when i think about happy's fall the words "Socially Retarded" come to mind.Sort of a knock on our mentally impaired brothers and sisters i'm afraid.The rest of us use the occasional cutting remark to make a point but he seems to have slipped into meanspirited hatefulness...sad


His behavior falls into one of the personality dosorders. Maybe Borderline Personality. Day to day with casual contact everthing is fine, but too much contact and closeness is not tolerated. He clearly has an impulse control issue and probably strong feelings of inadequacy for which he overcompensates with hostility and aggression. Now I'm gonna get it !!!
Kenny
Roberto said:
His behavior falls into one of the personality dosorders. Maybe Borderline Personality. Day to day with casual contact everthing is fine, but too much contact and closeness is not tolerated. He clearly has an impulse control issue and probably strong feelings of inadequacy for which he overcompensates with hostility and aggression. Now I'm gonna get it !!!

I agree on many of those observations doctor, and I've spent years trying to get him to slow down and get his delivery and timing better.:notme: I'm afraid it was contagous though, or maybe he just crossed the line with me one to many times.
Kenny
Mexico Joe said:
"Hey Rocky, you monkey..."


When I was a little boy at the Griffith Park zoo, my dad pointed at a monkey and said "that's your brother Kenny". Is rockypoint Joe my brother?:think:
InkaRoads
and what is worst is that he used to be a permanent fixture in RP and overnight he decided to stop going and started bashing the place and he does not even know that there is nothing going on in RP unless you are a cartel member or a drug dealer otherwise everything is just find and if something happen to those it happens out of town in the desert, he is your typical "I say what I hear without knowing if it is true".
Another thing that I have never heard it mention is that most of the bodies found in the desert between RP and Sonoyta are closer to Sonoyta than RP and of course the border where all the drugs go thru is in Sonoyta, with that I am not saying that RP is clear of any problems, damn, there is only 3 people in my family and the problems are there add to that a teenager and it just tripled!!!
Obviously he does not like change as in the ~~~pigeon coops~~~ progress is better than going backwards ~~~HAPPY~~~ even if it means going the extra mile to find your virgin beaches!!:o
InkaRoads
For some reason I went back and re-read the article, in spanish perro so I can undersatnd what they are actually saying, and this is what I found:
"Seis muertos más en Sonoyta. Minutos después en una brecha sita en cercanía a la carretera que conduce de Puerto Peñasco a Sonoyta se localizaron seis cuerpos más, añadió"
"Six more dead bodies in Sonoyta. Minutes later in a spot close to the highway from RP to Sonoyta six more bodies were found, he added"
As you can see many that half arss know spanish might misunderstand and think that the bodies where in or close to RP when in fact they were found in Sonoyta.

And it is clear that the google translator that James used is so much better than those used by the Dawg, I just found it after I posted.
Last edited: Oct 31, 2011 at 3:19 PM
playaperro
Where does it say I said that?
Last edited: Oct 31, 2011 at 4:02 PM
rockyptjoe
Happy.....I don't expect to get any "interesting" emails (or rants) from you.....it's your other buddies on here that have been doing the recent "psycho" analysis.....:stir:
Mexico Joe
rockyptjoe said:
You getting emails from him too? BTW...his sig on the other Forum is... Jack Stien...........Attorney At Law ...aka Happy....



~``Happy``~ The~~~Great~~~Wetta~ is a Jew?????!!!! Lololol would have never guessed that!
rockyptjoe
Kenny said:
When I was a little boy at the Griffith Park zoo, my dad pointed at a monkey and said "that's your brother Kenny". Is rockypoint Joe my brother?:think:


Kenny...was there a resemblance to that monkey your dad pointed to?:moon:
Kenny
and not mine.

rockyptjoe said:
Kenny...was there a resemblance to that monkey your dad pointed to?:moon:

Come to think of it he did have a bright red ass, as if he'd been sitting on a jet ski.:-o So I guess he was your brother, and not mine.:mrgreen:
Kenny
maybe she can even get a picture of one

Hey Jerry! Have you seen where Hector keeps calling your place down at Santo Tomas "FAIRY BEACH"? Now Hector used to have some good info once and awhile, and a lot of women believe in those kind of things and seem to be able to see them. So I'll bet a dime if you tell Joni, your better half, that there are fairy's on the beach down there, she'll spot some right away.
Heck, maybe she can even get a picture of one.:grin:
jerry
Manly man like Hector(you start wondering about a guys sexual preference when he's always calling all his enemies homos) would have loved the topless mexican swimsuit modeling video they shot in front of Milos house last month
Kenny said:
Hey Jerry! Have you seen where Hector keeps calling your place down at Santo Tomas "FAIRY BEACH"? Now Hector used to have some good info once and awhile, and a lot of women believe in those kind of things and seem to be able to see them. So I'll bet a dime if you tell Joni, your better half, that there are fairy's on the beach down there, she'll spot some right away.
Heck, maybe she can even get a picture of one.:grin:
stingray
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Last edited: Nov 1, 2011 at 1:01 AM
azbeachboy
I've been to Santo Tomas with both the "Sonoran Gods" Neither one had a women...Or any woman to be found anywhere...
It's true,"FAIRY BEACH" Does exist and I'll never visit that beach again...

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u...n/PB200220.jpg

image Originally Posted by Kenny image
Hey Jerry! Have you seen where Hector keeps calling your place down at Santo Tomas "FAIRY BEACH"? Now Hector used to have some good info once and awhile, and a lot of women believe in those kind of things and seem to be able to see them. So I'll bet a dime if you tell Joni, your better half, that there are fairy's on the beach down there, she'll spot some right away.
Heck, maybe she can even get a picture of one???.:grin:
Last edited: Nov 1, 2011 at 1:27 AM
Kenny
Are you sure you want everyony to know why you were 86ed from ever being invited to the great Corvina hunt after your second trip down Chuck, or is your brain so addled you forgot?
Again I'm flattered that you keep those pictures that you took of me to look at, but really, doesn't your wife like them too, and do you look at them together before, during, or can you? :rofl:
Actually these are my favorite pictures of my "fish scarin outfit", so stop bugging me for more. image....image... I'm sorry I forgot to take some pictures of you pissing at the bottom of the stairs at Jerry's guest house in a drunken stupor Chuck, but my camera wasn't handy.
Last edited: Nov 1, 2011 at 4:48 AM
Kenny
For you newer folks this "fish Scarin" outfit deal started at least 4 or so years ago when some funny pictures were posted on the forum of guy's fishing with just waders on from behind, and stuff like that. Some funny stuff was posted, and it went on and back and forth for some time.When we were fishing down at the little estuary about 14 miles down from jerry's place in Santo Tomas I thought it was about time (since Ric Felder had said one of those pictures from behind was me anyway LOL) that I had a little fun with it.
Now why Chucky here keeps those pictures is a whole other deal, but I've heard rumors, if you know what I mean.:wink:
Mexico Joe
````What a ~~~~~ ````JOTO```~~~~~~!!!!!!
jerry
AZ .love you man....( still banned from Santo Tomas for disrespectful behavior toward man and nature)
I don't know about you other guys but sometimes it's great to leave my girly girl viking princess home....https://picasaweb.google.com/100910113640564801579/SantoTomasMexico?authkey=Gv1sRgCIu96ND_lfujIA#5529503017828568466
and go fishing with the guys
https://picasaweb.google.com/100910113640564801579/20110531?authkey=Gv1sRgCIb1ic6x-9PmIg#5613740466240145010

azbeachboy said:
I've been to Santo Tomas with both the "Sonoran Gods" Neither one had a women...Or any woman to be found anywhere...
It's true,"FAIRY BEACH" Does exist and I'll never visit that beach again...

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u...n/PB200220.jpg

image Originally Posted by Kenny image
Hey Jerry! Have you seen where Hector keeps calling your place down at Santo Tomas "FAIRY BEACH"? Now Hector used to have some good info once and awhile, and a lot of women believe in those kind of things and seem to be able to see them. So I'll bet a dime if you tell Joni, your better half, that there are fairy's on the beach down there, she'll spot some right away.
Heck, maybe she can even get a picture of one???.:grin:
reportjones
Kenny looks good naked!
Esperanza
Oh my .....
Mexico Joe
jerry said:
AZ .love you man....( still banned from Santo Tomas for disrespectful behavior toward man and nature)
I don't know about you other guys but sometimes it's great to leave my girly girl viking princess home....https://picasaweb.google.com/100910113640564801579/SantoTomasMexico?authkey=Gv1sRgCIu96ND_lfujIA#5529503017828568466
and go fishing with the guys
https://picasaweb.google.com/100910113640564801579/20110531?authkey=Gv1sRgCIb1ic6x-9PmIg#5613740466240145010



Those were my COMPAS JOS A and JOS B!!!! Good ol Kenny caught the only damn fish!!!! Go figure...
jerry
Joe i just bought those guys a fish finder....maybe we have a chance now
Mexico Joe said:
Those were my COMPAS JOS A and JOS B!!!! Good ol Kenny caught the only damn fish!!!! Go figure...
Mexico Joe
jerry said:
Joe i just bought those guys a fish finder....maybe we have a chance now



Good because Im pretty sure the guy had us fishing in sand. You can tell the difference between rock and sand when the weight hits the bottom. Cant wait for the next Corvina hunt, hopefully Matt can make it down for a little bit longer this time around.
garyd
jerry said:
AZ .love you man....( still banned from Santo Tomas for disrespectful behavior toward man and nature)
I don't know about you other guys but sometimes it's great to leave my girly girl viking princess home....https://picasaweb.google.com/100910113640564801579/SantoTomasMexico?authkey=Gv1sRgCIu96ND_lfujIA#5529503017828568466
and go fishing with the guys
https://picasaweb.google.com/100910113640564801579/20110531?authkey=Gv1sRgCIb1ic6x-9PmIg#5613740466240145010

How do I get to Santo Tomas. Last time I tried I ended up in some grape vineyards
reportjones
I was sitting on the beach last week in front of Esmerelda when I saw a bunch of former friend's of Kennys float by on a Carnival Crusie Ship. A monkey with purple hair had just escaped from the zoo and was riding a jetski behind the ship. The ship pulled up into the inland harbor next to the Reef Trailer Park and all of Kenny's former friends got off the boat to watch Thunder Racing. Kenny suddenly popped out of nowhere, completely naked, armed with a fishing pole and kicked ass on all of his former friends. Kenny knows karate. These friends now own Midget Race Cars and are returning for next year's Thunder Racing event. Kenny is cool!
Last edited: Nov 4, 2011 at 8:29 PM
cholla
I was sitting there too. Drinking a cold one and trying to fish. I did not see Kenny in his birthday suit (thank God) but the monkey on a jetski with purple hair, beached it right in front of me and ran up yelling "FREE HAPPY< FREE HAPPY" then he ran down the beach towards Cholla Bay and I hav'nt seen him since. The jetski went out with the tide. Caught two corvina.
reportjones
I saw you on the beach. I stole both of your fish. They were not Corvina. The were Cyclops Sharks. Kenny likes Sharks. I like Kenny. I like Happy. I like Dry Heat. I like clean underwear. I dont like monkeys unless they ride jetskis and have green hair. I am a member of a Drug Cartel. Kenny is my posse. Dont mess with me when I am sitting on the beach. I never drive; too dangerous.
Mentiras y Traición
Mas tequila, por favor.:popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:
jerry
Gary you head to the right instead of going under the new overpass 60 miles South of Puerto Penasco.Take the dirt road that runs along the last 6 miles of the coastal highway still being paved until you hit the Eijdo Alvaro Obregon .Take a right at the crossroad into the town and you pick up the beach road.Go another 6 miles past Olive and Orange grows and Grape vines (good dirt most of the time but after this wind could be bumpy) and you are at the entrance.They will let you in and give you a lot map(if looking at lots talk to me i know some real deals) Drive up to the front and take a right into the parking lot in front of the 3 story condo building and park.....
garyd said:
How do I get to Santo Tomas. Last time I tried I ended up in some grape vineyards
rockyptjoe
The last time I was down (about 3 years ago)...they gave you a royal hassle at the entrance.....has that eased up a bit?
jerry
just day you want a lot map and all doors open...
rockyptjoe said:
The last time I was down (about 3 years ago)...they gave you a royal hassle at the entrance.....has that eased up a bit?
Wood Spinner
I can't believe he is an attorney, I thought he was a brick or two short on the brain area. I blocked all his E-Mails so I will not have to hear from him on this.