Does anyone know of a reputable Architect/builder that has recent work that can be examined? Is there a going rate per sq. ft? I would imagine that labor is pretty cheap right now...
Builders in Penasco
Started by falsent · Sep 21, 2011 · 34 replies
Builder cost is going to be 40.00 to 45.00 dllrs for a simple house, client cost will probably be around 60.00 dllrs. Not much different from Phoenix. What you save on the cheap labor you will spend on higher material cost's and much slower construction time. Also there is no free electricity hookup in RP. I paid $30,000.00 dllrs to bring power (from not to far away) to some lots in Las Conchas and built 3 houses, when I went to hook up power, I got another bill for about 1,000.00 dllrs per house hookup fee. Also make sure your contractor is paying Mexican Social Security, I built a couple houses in Lopez Aceves and mine wasn't paying,another 4400.00 I wasn't expecting, when Blanca from Social Security showed up. Those are the 3 you sold Roberto.
falsent said:Does anyone know of a reputable Architect/builder that has recent work that can be examined? Is there a going rate per sq. ft? I would imagine that labor is pretty cheap right now...
Too Funny falsent, missing Duna's, I know a builder that can put a house up in 3 months, kind of high end stuff with real duct work and heat pumps, insulated,
all depends where in penasco, boveda ceilings, monitos, view decks,
playaperro said:Too Funny falsent, missing Duna's, I know a builder that can put a house up in 3 months, kind of high end stuff with real duct work and heat pumps, insulated,
all depends where in penasco, boveda ceilings, monitos, view decks,
We have put em up that fast or faster in Lopez, but not very big (83 meters) and definetly not high end. My motto for building " BUILD FOR THE RICH AND EAT WITH THE POOR OR BUILD FOR THE POOR AND EAT WITH THE RICH".
If you go look at gringo loco house in cholla he's been at it for 15 years or more. Its good for lopez what you are are building Bill.
I, looked at a little project off of Samuel Ocana, the houses are 34 sq. meters and sell for 200,000 pesos and are selling as fast as the guy can build them. Thats 15,400.00 dllrs today for about 360 sq ft. He is probably making 4 or 5 thousand a house, they are basically shells on a tiny lot. 42 bucks a foot with the lot.
Thanks for the info guys. I'm looking to build on my lot in Las Conchas. I like the idea of high end but not sure if I have the cash to make that happen. Playa, what is your guys info? Is there a website or anything where I can get more info?
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Bill I have a few other house photos can't upload try to email them to you.
Bill I have a few other house photos can't upload try to email them to you.
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You can go by his house in Las Conchas, Will Pm info a little later. K
falsent said:Thanks for the info guys. I'm looking to build on my lot in Las Conchas. I like the idea of high end but not sure if I have the cash to make that happen. Playa, what is your guys info? Is there a website or anything where I can get more info?
Just take it to the shell stage for now, or the obra negra as it is called in mexico, thats the cheap part. Make it look finished on the outside, so Las Conchas doesn't bother you and finish it when you have the time and money, just finish a bathroom, the kitchen and a bedroom. I was 7 years building my house in San Felipe and its a small one, not because of money but because of time. 7 or 8 hours from Phoenix. For the 83 meter house I built in Lopez I think we used around 1000 block even today thats only 700 dllrs. and another 700.00 to get them laid.
playaperro said:Bill I have a few other house photos can't upload try to email them to you.
Those 3 houses were a little bigger and really turned out pretty, i built those in 2006 and the pictures show the back of the house, the front faces the water.
Nice to build exactly what you want but I sure would look at what is for sale, built, furnished and ready to use. 5 years ago building was a viable way to save money but now prices are way down and there is even some owner financing. As Lagrimis says, make sure the builder is paying the SS, put it in the contract that you get a receipt. Whoever the builder, keep very close tabs on stuff, get receipts or order and pay yourself. If you have a trust on the land you will want to get the house in it, if you don't have a trust you might be building it for someone else! Good luck !!
Roberto said:Nice to build exactly what you want but I sure would look at what is for sale, built, furnished and ready to use. 5 years ago building was a viable way to save money but now prices are way down and there is even some owner financing. As Lagrimis says, make sure the builder is paying the SS, put it in the contract that you get a receipt. Whoever the builder, keep very close tabs on stuff, get receipts or order and pay yourself. If you have a trust on the land you will want to get the house in it, if you don't have a trust you might be building it for someone else! Good luck !!
You have to have complete confidence in your builder, its a five step process, anyway if you give me the money I can run off to vegas and double or maybe triple it.
I think you are asking the wrong question. The question should be what is the smallest, well designed Casa built with superior materials and construction methods I can live with? You will not get a well done finished house at less than 50 a foot it just won't happen.Materials have gone up,the local agencies are all wetting their beaks,labor is a big hassle now (if the contractor hires more guys and then lay them off if the new jobs are not happening the unemployment payment is a big wack )...do you really want the cheapest slab,the crappiest block,the most inefficient ac?...think small......and cool
My advice is build smaller,with better materials,outside shade structures for hanging out by the sea. A great room with small bedrooms and skip the garage.You will save so much money that you won't have to rent out your place.
My advice is build smaller,with better materials,outside shade structures for hanging out by the sea. A great room with small bedrooms and skip the garage.You will save so much money that you won't have to rent out your place.
lagrimas85 said:I, looked at a little project off of Samuel Ocana, the houses are 34 sq. meters and sell for 200,000 pesos and are selling as fast as the guy can build them. Thats 15,400.00 dllrs today for about 360 sq ft. He is probably making 4 or 5 thousand a house, they are basically shells on a tiny lot. 42 bucks a foot with the lot.
Gov loans on those houses not bad deal for buyers...
jerry said:I think you are asking the wrong question. The question should be what is the smallest, well designed Casa built with superior materials and construction methods I can live with? You will not get a well done finished house at less than 50 a foot it just won't happen.
Most places that abide by cc'rs will not let you build a casita under 1400 sq. ft. a la las conchas...
My point is if you come at this with a "what can you build per foot? " mindset you will not get what you want.You need to ask what it costs to build say a Perform wall house with upgraded windows, x type of doors on a specific lot. Do you want a big house with bad paint,doors and windows that don't work for <WASH MY MOUTH OUT WITH SOAP><WASH MY MOUTH OUT WITH SOAP><WASH MY MOUTH OUT WITH SOAP><WASH MY MOUTH OUT WITH SOAP> in 5 years because of the heat,leaky roofs due too cheap roof coating....
Lagrimas - the pictures of the Lopez houses that you posted - what does a house like that cost to build?
mis2810 said:Lagrimas - the pictures of the Lopez houses that you posted - what does a house like that cost to build?[/QUOTE My hard cost in those house's was around $60,000.00. there are some other 2 stories I built that are similar but smaller, that cost me around 35,000.00. Roberto's office sold one of those to a Federal Judge in 2006. I will see if i can post some pictures. Thanks
"My hard cost in those house's was around $60,000.00. there are some other 2 stories I built that are similar but smaller, that cost me around 35,000.00. Roberto's office sold one of those to a Federal Judge in 2006. I will see if i can post some pictures. Thanks"
You mean cost not including labor, etc.? Or is that what those would sell for, not including the lot fee? And how many square feet were the ones at $60K vs. the $35K, approximately?
You mean cost not including labor, etc.? Or is that what those would sell for, not including the lot fee? And how many square feet were the ones at $60K vs. the $35K, approximately?
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We used Fernando Curiel to design and build our house in Las Conchas. The house is approximately 2500 sq ft. and was finished in less than 9 months. I believe Fernando is now has some position for the City like Director of City Planning or some similar title and I don't know if he is still doing construction. His office is in the large plaza opposite of Las Conchas - he built that and was the builder for the defunct development right next to it "Something" Del Mar. The models were built and that's it. He has built some other houses around Las Conchas. He is very accomodating and responsive.
GringoZona said:"My hard cost in those house's was around $60,000.00. there are some other 2 stories I built that are similar but smaller, that cost me around 35,000.00. Roberto's office sold one of those to a Federal Judge in 2006. I will see if i can post some pictures. Thanks"
You mean cost not including labor, etc.? Or is that what those would sell for, not including the lot fee? And how many square feet were the ones at $60K vs. the $35K, approximately?
I built 3 houses at the same time, I spent around 60,000.00 labor, materials, social security and permits on each house, I paid 30,000.00 for the lot, then subdivided it into 3 pieces, the houses are 2 bedroom, 2 bath with a 600 sq ft deck on the 2nd story, with an outdoor kitchen on the deck and a kitchen in the house, not counting the deck the house iis 1400 sq ft. Sell price for the first one was 155k 2nd 167k 3rd 175k I also paid a real estate commision of 6% or about 30,000 for all 3 and capital gains tax of around 72,000.00 dollars. Dont forget this was 2006 year of the still easy money and big egos. The smaller house is just under 700 sq ft the 2 of them sold in the 70,000 dollar bracket. The lot cost about 7k and again i paid a commision and capital gains. My hard cost included every expense there was for one house 60k I built 15 houses total in Lopez Aceves. MS2810 asked what the houses cost to build and thats what they cost. jerry, these house's are the quality you talk about, I brought help from Guaymas and Nayarit and they built the 7 2 story houses in Lopez and 3 in Las Conchas.
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Night time in Lopez and the front of one of the house's.Last edited: Sep 23, 2011 at 8:47 AM
Lagrimas and Roberto - We'll be down on October 6th - any chance of meeting up for a tour of Lopez with my husband, my sister and me?
mis2810 said:Lagrimas and Roberto - We'll be down on October 6th - any chance of meeting up for a tour of Lopez with my husband, my sister and me?
Hey mis2810...be sure to stop in and see us as well :-) We're planning on being there that weekend as well
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Esperanza said:Hey mis2810...be sure to stop in and see us as well :-) We're planning on being there that weekend as well
We will! I guess it won't be hard to find you guys, right?
http://www.vivareal.net/home-house-29184081/ 300 k gets you this house right on the beach in Conchas....might put the old lot up for sale and get Roberto to round you up a deal from the link below
http://dorisruthbrooks.point2agent.com/PROPERTY_FOR_SALE/page_2156469.htm
http://dorisruthbrooks.point2agent.com/PROPERTY_FOR_SALE/page_2156469.htm
jerry said:http://www.vivareal.net/home-house-29184081/ 300 k gets you this house right on the beach in Conchas....might put the old lot up for sale and get Roberto to round you up a deal from the link below
Eee Compa 300K for 1/2 share, not the whole taco..
Oops...damn that would have been too good to be true
playaperro said:jerry said:http://www.vivareal.net/home-house-29184081/ 300 k gets you this house right on the beach in Conchas....might put the old lot up for sale and get Roberto to round you up a deal from the link below
Eee Compa 300K for 1/2 share, not the whole taco..
mis2810 said:Lagrimas and Roberto - We'll be down on October 6th - any chance of meeting up for a tour of Lopez with my husband, my sister and me?
Office is open 7 days a week till 5. Got all the maps and plats on hand. I'm the afternoon guy. Call or e-mail twindolphinrlty@aol.com if you want to make an appointment.
Roberto,
You seem to know about real estate.
Is there a custom lot development, “Ocean View” and “Costa De Monte”?
If so, where are they located? Can anyone build on a lot?
Spelling might be off.
You seem to know about real estate.
Is there a custom lot development, “Ocean View” and “Costa De Monte”?
If so, where are they located? Can anyone build on a lot?
Spelling might be off.
Ocean View, as far as I know , is used to describe just that of a property ' a view of the ocean' . I visited some described as such but I called it an Ocean Peek!! There is one house on the north side of the RR tracks that actually has an ocean view, if you stand on the toilet and look out the window of the bathroom!!
Costa De Monte is located on Sandy Beach and may be a development of SBR. Not sure about that.
Anyone can build on a lot if they own the lot !!! City requires some stuff but nothing like the US.
Costa De Monte is located on Sandy Beach and may be a development of SBR. Not sure about that.
Anyone can build on a lot if they own the lot !!! City requires some stuff but nothing like the US.
Is SBR = Gus Brown?
Horace Greely said:Is SBR = Gus Brown?
Yes, it's his development company.