The hysteria started with the Warden's Message from the US Consulate in Nogales.
This official government message is very influential and was poorly and vaguely worded, open to misunderstanding, especially by the mass media.
The origins of the information contained in the message is undetermined and unnconfirmed, by their own admission.
The US Consuate should be concerned about the level of service it provides US citizens and not provide misinformation, or incomplete and vague information that may lead to an inappropriate, ineffective public response.
What would happen if a Federal alert from the Center for Disease Control at this poor level of communication regarding a disease epidemic was issued? "People traveling in the US should be aware that there are unconfirmed reports of deaths from a resurgence of the Plague througout the Southern States of the US." That would certainly be irresponsible, as is this Warden's message.
If you are a US citizen, let the US Consul in Nogales and his or her supervisors and upper levels in government know you are concerned. Contact your elected officials about it too.
Ask that a clarification of that Wardens message be posted on their web site as soon as possible particularly identifying the level of confidence in the accuarcy of the information used to generate this report and the relationship between Highway 8 and the reports of shootings. The news might pick that up as it shows the incompetence of government, a topic they like to report. They will pick up the story with a higher probability than anything coming out of Mexico.
Yeah this is a lot of time and work but if you've got time to whine about it here you should have the time to do something that might actually be effective.
I'm hoping someone (Kenny?) who can do it, can find and will post the appropriate links, US consulate General, US Consulate in Mexico City, US Consulate Nogales, Whatever Federal offices are concerned, Contacts for elected officals, State and Federal. All you'll have to do is e-mail. Enough pressure, there might actually be a response.
:notworthy::notworthy::notworthy:Yeah, its much more fun to spend your time whining about everthing, and monitoring what everyone else has to contribute. so you can correct it. You're always right so we are very grateful for your continuing input.
:notworthy::notworthy::notworthy:Yeah, its much more fun to spend your time whining about everthing, and monitoring what everyone else has to contribute. so you can correct it. You're always right so we are very grateful for your continuing input.
Thanks Roberto I laughed so hard milk came out of my nose, wait a minute....I dont drink milk!
Russ must have bought the Black Widow one of those lactation pumps.
That he/she is still around? Might be a rocky point icon. One of my friends years ago had gotten into a fight at a bar and was thrown in the holding cell and that thing was in the same cell with him for the night- I never laughed so hard hearing him tell the story.
You seriously have way too much time on your hands.
LOL..Too much time on his hands??? Talk about too much time on ones hands. Submarine your the poster boy for someone w/ too much time & one who uses all their time to bash RP. At least Roberto spends his time productively / wisely & helps make a difference. How does it feel Submarine to be known to most on this forum as the creepy nut case loner who has nothing better to do than to bash Rocky Point......We don't care what happened to you in your life years ago to make you hate RP & all the new tourism there.........Get over it...Cities grow & expand......If you can't handle that then go buy 1000 acres in New Mexico & live in a tent in the middle of it until your heart is content..
Hey Pete, No Please Not New Mexico. Alaska !
Would you mind if I use your signature?
If you want to see how nutty Subbie cn get, mention WAL MART:rofl::rofl::rofl:
Hey Pete, No Please Not New Mexico. Alaska !
Would you mind if I use your signature?
If you want to see how nutty Subbie cn get, mention WAL MART:rofl::rofl::rofl:
Please do...I hope everyone uses my signature & exposes Submarine for the nut case he is......
Now a true nutcase would make a 4 state trip to 'interview' walmart workers then deny it. Anyone around here fit that bill?
Even worse would be sociopaths who tranfer all their anger over official messages from government agencies and the media to certain forum members they hate. Sound familiar?
Now a true nutcase would make a 4 state trip to 'interview' walmart workers then deny it. Anyone around here fit that bill?
Even worse would be sociopaths who tranfer all their anger over official messages from government agencies and the media to certain forum members they hate. Sound familiar?
Bring it on!
???????????? I don't even know how to respond to your jibberish....You really are a nut case Submarine. All anyone has to do is to read your agenda driven hate filled posts to understand that you truly are a nut case.
I have no idea what this Wal Mart thing is your talking about. I've read most of your posts & I know you hate RP & it's growth & youre agenda is to scare tourists away. I take it you also hate Wal Mart for some reason???? I don't know but it sounds like you are a hate filled bitter person towards a lot of things.
All I can say is GET OVER IT.......By the way your hate filled quote towards the business owners in RP says everything about you that anyone needs to know.......heres your quote below ( found in quote #167 in UNOFICIAL CHECKPOINTS HWY 8 TO ROCKY POINT )
Originally Posted by caracolera
If we all go out of business, how will YOUR life be better?
Submarine response
"I hope the whole damn lot of you become penniless, then you can sweep the sand out of my trailer on Sandy Beach for a pittance." ...
Wow....you sure are a nice guy Submarine. How does it feel to be an angry bitter loner?
By the way nobody believes your adgenda driven garbage that spews from your mouth about RP. RP is never again going to be the small town w/ 1 trailer park that you want it to be.
I advise anyone who reads this to expose Submarine to everyone they know and his agenda and to copy my signature or create one to use at the bottom of all their posts exposing this angry bitter nut case & his quest to trash Rocky Point.
Also I believe that it was probably Submarine who contacted the US Consulate & gave them the bogus info about the fake police check points. Who else could it have been?? Submarine is clearly the type of person that would do something like that. It doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure out by reading his posts that he is doing everything he can to destroy RP......He even admits this in not so many words.
I get on this forum about once a week & I can't believe how disrespectfull he is to all of you on this forum & how bent he is on destroying RP...
I can't believe he is allowed to even post on here..........
???????????? I don't even know how to respond to your jibberish....You really are a nut case Submarine. All anyone has to do is to read your agenda driven hate filled posts to understand that you truly are a nut case.
I have no idea what this Wal Mart thing is your talking about. I've read most of your posts & I know you hate RP & it's growth & youre agenda is to scare tourists away. I take it you also hate Wal Mart for some reason???? I don't know but it sounds like you are a hate filled bitter person towards a lot of things.
All I can say is GET OVER IT.......By the way your hate filled quote towards the business owners in RP says everything about you that anyone needs to know.......heres your quote below ( found in quote #167 in UNOFICIAL CHECKPOINTS HWY 8 TO ROCKY POINT )
Originally Posted by caracolera
If we all go out of business, how will YOUR life be better?
Submarine response
"I hope the whole damn lot of you become penniless, then you can sweep the sand out of my trailer on Sandy Beach for a pittance." ...
Wow....you sure are a nice guy Submarine. How does it feel to be an angry bitter loner?
By the way nobody believes your adgenda driven garbage that spews from your mouth about RP. RP is never again going to be the small town w/ 1 trailer park that you want it to be.
I advise anyone who reads this to expose Submarine to everyone they know and his agenda and to copy my signature or create one to use at the bottom of all their posts exposing this angry bitter nut case & his quest to trash Rocky Point.
Also I believe that it was probably Submarine who contacted the US Consulate & gave them the bogus info about the fake police check points. Who else could it have been?? Submarine is clearly the type of person that would do something like that. It doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure out by reading his posts that he is doing everything he can to destroy RP......He even admits this in not so many words.
I get on this forum about once a week & I can't believe how disrespectfull he is to all of you on this forum & how bent he is on destroying RP...
I can't believe he is allowed to even post on here..........
And I can't believe that you're repeating the same gibberish/garbage that you started in a previous new thread....that thankfully it looks like either Stuart/Tyler deleted.
Mr. Lurker.....by your own admission you check this Forum once a week....and only have 6 posts???? How about telling us something about yourself.....so that we can know or begin to understand your motivation..... How about some constructive posts????
Many of us know Sub, even from the previous Forum....we may not always agree with him, sometimes he sounds like he's gotten some bad drugs, or the fumes from his UPS truckl have gotten to him....but your attack is very "personal" and uncalled for!!!
Many of us know Sub, even from the previous Forum....we may not always agree with him, sometimes he sounds like he's gotten some bad drugs, or the fumes from his UPS truckl have gotten to him....but your attack is very "personal" and uncalled for!!!
That's right!... He might be a jerk at time's, well lately most of the time. Yep, unfortunately he's family.
This is my edit.... Only a family member would send me a private message like the one he sent me yesterday. If I remember correctly, he told me to stick to it :-P or something like that.
And I can't believe that you're repeating the same gibberish/garbage that you started in a previous new thread....that thankfully it looks like either Stuart/Tyler deleted.
Mr. Lurker.....by your own admission you check this Forum once a week....and only have 6 posts???? How about telling us something about yourself.....so that we can know or begin to understand your motivation..... How about some constructive posts????
Many of us know Sub, even from the previous Forum....we may not always agree with him, sometimes he sounds like he's gotten some bad drugs, or the fumes from his UPS truckl have gotten to him....but your attack is very "personal" and uncalled for!!!
RkyPtJoe.....why do you defend a person who wants all businesses in RP to fail?? Do you feel that way too?
So let me get this straight, according to you , if a person has been posting on this forum for a long time, that means that they can try to destroy Rocky Point and that is ok w/ you?? You seem to be fixated that I only have a total of 6 posts & in your opinion that doesnt seem to qualify me to expose Submarine as the RP hatemonger that he is . Well RkyPtJoe I have news for you, it doesnt take a brain surgeon, or someone who has posted here 1000 times, to figure out that Submarine is a hate filled bitter guy who is trying to destroy RP. I'm amazed you defend him. If a person Ive known forever started spewing uncalled for hate from their mouth I would never defend them.
RkyPtJoe you ask me quote "How about telling us something about yourself.....so that we can know or begin to understand your motivation..... How about some constructive posts????
Sure Joe....I live in AZ & I love going down to RP for vacations & it's very dissapointing to see someone continiously bash RP w/ exagerations & lies to try & scare away tourists for their own selfish reasons. "Constructive posts" ....LOL.....ummm...you need to talk w/ your buddy Submarine about that one since " Constructive posts" are so very important to you. My posts are always constructive & especially my latest one in calling out Submarine as a cancer to RP that he is..........
Once again ..Submarine...whatever made you the angry RP hater that you are...GET OVER IT.......life is to short to spend all your time trying to make everyone as unhappy as you are........get back on your med's or do whatever you need to do.......There is way better causes & things to do w/ your days than to bash RP........
Take up fishing & hanging out at the beach like me..it's a lot more fun
RkyPtJoe.....why do you defend a person who wants all businesses in RP to fail?? Do you feel that way too?
So let me get this straight, according to you , if a person has been posting on this forum for a long time, that means that they can try to destroy Rocky Point and that is ok w/ you?? You seem to be fixated that I only have a total of 6 posts & in your opinion that doesnt seem to qualify me to expose Submarine as the RP hatemonger that he is . Well RkyPtJoe I have news for you, it doesnt take a brain surgeon, or someone who has posted here 1000 times, to figure out that Submarine is a hate filled bitter guy who is trying to destroy RP. I'm amazed you defend him. If a person Ive known forever started spewing uncalled for hate from their mouth I would never defend them.
RkyPtJoe you ask me quote "How about telling us something about yourself.....so that we can know or begin to understand your motivation..... How about some constructive posts????
Sure Joe....I live in AZ & I love going down to RP for vacations & it's very dissapointing to see someone continiously bash RP w/ exagerations & lies to try & scare away tourists for their own selfish reasons. "Constructive posts" ....LOL.....ummm...you need to talk w/ your buddy Submarine about that one since " Constructive posts" are so very important to you. My posts are always constructive & especially my latest one in calling out Submarine as a cancer to RP that he is..........
Once again ..Submarine...whatever made you the angry RP hater that you are...GET OVER IT.......life is to short to spend all your time trying to make everyone as unhappy as you are........get back on your med's or do whatever you need to do.......There is way better causes & things to do w/ your days than to bash RP........
Take up fishing & hanging out at the beach like me..it's a lot more fun
Nice try at deflection.....what other constructive posts have you made on here???....if you've been going down to RP for any length of time, I'm sure you would have a wealth of info to provide any new members when they ask questions.....have you???? I'm not "fixated" on the number of posts, per se, just that most of your posts have been an attack, rather than providing useful info to anyone reading this Forum...particularly those that are new to RP. All of us "regulars" on here get "into it" occasionally...but if you look at our posts, you will find that these skirmishes do not make up the majority of our activity....like your attack does!
My reason for "defending" Sub, as you call it, is because of your very personal attack on another member of this Forum. You've stooped to name calling and innuendo (accusing him of being the one providing the unsubstantiated info that was given by the "Warden"). A personal attack on another member of this Forum does not qualify as something "constructive" in my mind......
So I repeat...tell us something about yourself....do you own a condo?...do you own a business in RP?....is the drop in tourism hurting you in the wallet????....your reply doesn't show me the motivation for your posts....or even come close to justifying them!!!
I have a question for the Tourism Board, the elected officials of Sonora/Penasco, and the business owners in Penasco.....
Why haven't you all gotten into some cars and descended on the Consulate to request a retraction....rather then the gnashing of teeth (sorry for the description) that I've seen on here? Drive up to Phoenix and Tucson, and request an on camera interview with the TV stations, and interviews with the newspapers.
Nice try at deflection.....what other constructive posts have you made on here???....if you've been going down to RP for any length of time, I'm sure you would have a wealth of info to provide any new members when they ask questions.....have you???? I'm not "fixated" on the number of posts, per se, just that most of your posts have been an attack, rather than providing useful info to anyone reading this Forum...particularly those that are new to RP. All of us "regulars" on here get "into it" occasionally...but if you look at our posts, you will find that these skirmishes do not make up the majority of our activity....like your attack does!
My reason for "defending" Sub, as you call it, is because of your very personal attack on another member of this Forum. You've stooped to name calling and innuendo (accusing him of being the one providing the unsubstantiated info that was given by the "Warden"). A personal attack on another member of this Forum does not qualify as something "constructive" in my mind......
So I repeat...tell us something about yourself....do you own a condo?...do you own a business in RP?....is the drop in tourism hurting you in the wallet????....your reply doesn't show me the motivation for your posts....or even come close to justifying them!!!
I dont own a condo, house, trailer or a business in RP. I just like going there often w/ friends & I don't like seeing them not want to go because they hear a false or exagerated rumor......
Concerning constructive posts....you don't have a clue what constructive posts are.....If you are as truly concerned w/ constructive posts as you SAY you are then you would have had a major problem w/ your "friend" Submarine's posts a long time ago....
Great choice of friends by the way......
NOW REALLY GIVE ME AN HONEST ANSWER...
RkyPtJoe.....why do you defend a person who wants all businesses in RP to fail?? Do you feel that way too?
and don't give me this balogney answer of ( gee I feel your personally attacking Submarine & I need to defend him cause he & I have been posting on here for years & your a new guy ) lame
NEWS FLASH......anybody who want's all businesses in RP to fail is just plain trash
Pete - sage advice here, last warning! You obviously didn't get it from the post I deleted. No personal attacks. You have an issue with someone, take it to Private Message or personal email. We don't care that you hate Submarine and think he's a cancer. We don't care if Joe hates Jerry or Playa hates everybody or whoever hates Obama/Bush/me. Take it up with that person directly, not the public forum.
You are free to express your opinion about what is posted here -- good or bad. You are not free to start expressing your opinion about other posters. We're all one big dysfunctional family here and we kinda like it that way.
:gofish:This crap sucks. I called Russ names and others are calling names also. For my part I'm sorry for the name calling but I still think Russ should quit some of his crap.
I have been preparing to retire in RP for 25+ years and before this crisis came I was almost ready. I will be 62 in July and I see no hope for the economy here and worse for my beloved second home.
These two bad publicities we've had this past week are making things tougher for the many buisnesses in Penasco and I feel for each and every one of you.
Our tourism board made a big mistake but as they say this too shall pass.
I've been on this forum now for more than five years and I can tell newbies one thing- Don't look for an argument because there are many Devil's advocates here just dying to pull your chain, Sub has been on this forum many years and tho' I don't know him personally i enjoy his posts. He, like a lot of us would like to go back to the "good ol' days" unfortunately they are gone and won't be returning soon.
In the end RP is my second home and I hate what's going on with Arpaiio and the fence and narco traficantes and goodbye to calle trece for family fun. We, as a group, are all getting our panties in a bunch over this crap and I think we should all go to the beach and forget that even together we cannot change all that much. VAYA CON DIOS TODOS Y PIENSAMOUS EN NUESTA FUTURO EN PARAIISIO
Submarine personally attacks Russ and others all the time on posts. Just from what I have seen. I do feel that since the forum is called rocky point talk it should be positive news about RP. And the comments should be positive too. Where is the love ya'll?
Submarine personally attacks Russ and others all the time on posts. Just from what I have seen. I do feel that since the forum is called rocky point talk it should be positive news about RP. And the comments should be positive too. Where is the love ya'll?
The real estate boosters hurt RP worse than the Narcos (or even the evil Sub) by not planning ahead on the border crossing issue. i run into more people that won't go down because they fear being unable to cross back on Sunday than i do that are afraid of crime. The housing bubble took away our mojo.So, rather than getting mad at the real estate community/banks that caused the problem and punish them we decided to crush the mexicans that provided the labor for building our over built,over priced,over crowed suburban hell .
Submarine personally attacks Russ and others all the time on posts. Just from what I have seen. I do feel that since the forum is called rocky point talk it should be positive news about RP. And the comments should be positive too. Where is the love ya'll?
I am sorry adcs, but your way of looking at things seems a little to naive, no matter where you go you are going to find good and evil and I rather know about both than play blind and think everything is hunky dory, I love RP but I do know it also has some bad things going on, just like anywhere else, the problem being, in my opinion, is that we tent to overly talk or stress about the bad things, we humans like sensationalism, I mean look at WWF it is all lies but half the world love to see it!!
I like to hear the bad as well as the good but enough is enough, how many thread have been open about this consulate warning?
Pretty sure several names were thrown out there. No One so far has taken responsibility for the Wardens Message. It did not necessarily get created by the actual Warden so it will be hard until they decide that someone needs to fall on the sword (hopeful thoughts, not real just hopeful) as to the identity of the actual person who decided it must be written in that fashion against their own guidelines
Thanks, Russ, Is there many people down These last few days?
This is an interesting truth this is not cheerleading or pom pom waiving it is something I found out last night at a meeting . One of the reservation companies said she lost 13 rooms this weekend due to the news but that she picked up 11 new ones at the last minute so it was a small loss overall. She reports she is 95% full for memorial day weekend and that is awesome as it relates to the economic black ball that some in Arizona are pulling right now!
I am sorry adcs, but your way of looking at things seems a little to naive, no matter where you go you are going to find good and evil and I rather know about both than play blind and think everything is hunky dory, I love RP but I do know it also has some bad things going on, just like anywhere else, the problem being, in my opinion, is that we tent to overly talk or stress about the bad things, we humans like sensationalism, I mean look at WWF it is all lies but half the world love to see it!!
I like to hear the bad as well as the good but enough is enough, how many thread have been open about this consulate warning?
I would rather be naive than angry. I know there is good and evil everywhere.There does seem to be a little more evil lately, so instead of being negative I would rather be positive. I agree there is stuff that goes on in RP , but in my opinion there is no point in talking about it unless it involves hurting business in RP or the innocent people who live and travel to RP. Who else besides Submarine I mean Jerry has the time to write all the negative stuff.:-D
In my opinion, it is good to have both and be well informed, now do NOT confuse Sub and Jerry, they are two very different people with some similar opinions, they are not the same at all!! :eek3:
In my opinion, it is good to have both and be well informed, now do NOT confuse Sub and Jerry, they are two very different people with some similar opinions, they are not the same at all!! :eek3:
It's a joke in another thread.Just trying some of that thing they call humor.I forgot to say I do totally agree with you when you say how many threads have to be open about this consulate thing?
This is an interesting truth this is not cheerleading or pom pom waiving it is something I found out last night at a meeting . One of the reservation companies said she lost 13 rooms this weekend due to the news but that she picked up 11 new ones at the last minute so it was a small loss overall. She reports she is 95% full for memorial day weekend and that is awesome as it relates to the economic black ball that some in Arizona are pulling right now!
95% Wow! That's amazing, especially since U.S. hotel occupancy rates have hovered around 50% for quite a while now. Perhaps I should invest in PP! It must be true, otherwise Bob would be all up in your veracity and all that. But that's great news! I must ask though, if reservations are up and my single-handed campaign to lay waste to Rocky Point (I think that would look great on a resume btw) have failed so miserably, what is everyone all upset about?
Extra paperwork?
Submarine personally attacks Russ and others all the time on posts. Just from what I have seen. I do feel that since the forum is called rocky point talk it should be positive news about RP. And the comments should be positive too. Where is the love ya'll?
ADCS brings up a good point. I'm new to this forum & I instantly noticed lots of personal attacks going on & worse than that certain people w/ obvious bad intentions trying to do harm to RP's economy. And it seems to be totally accepted & permitted by some on this forum.
At the end of the day everyone on this forum are people who like going to or spending time in Rocky Point. So why on earth would someone want to harm RP's economy? The excuse I've heard of " were mad because RP has grown so much & all these condo resorts are here now & the middle class is gone & our favorite place to stay is not there any more"... FIRST off I go all up & down the coast in RP & there are still many RV's, trailer's , ( what one of the posters i guess refers to as middle class ), from the Reef to the Mirador area's , Yes not as many are there as their used to be but many are still there.
I also loved RP the way it was back in the late 80's & 90's. But come on guys....cities grow, people discover cool places & things change ( life happens ). RP has had drastic recent changes like many other cities have gone thru. The drastic economy swing has hit & affected every city. When life hands you lemons.....thats right make lemon aid...dont pick up the lemons & throw them at your neighbors face. MY POINT is bashing RP ( which is clearly, excesively, directly & in directly going on here ) IS TOTALLY UNECESSARY. ITS NOT GOING TO MAKE THINGS BETTER. IT WILL ONLY MAKE THINGS WORSE.
Lets say some people on this forum are successful in scaring away much of the tourism from RP. WHAT GOOD IS THAT GOING TO DO? Well lets see, first it would put thousands of good RP locals out of work, the condos would still be there ther are not going anywhere, etc It wont solve anything...
I loved Phx more when it was smaller. Now its huge & all these houses have been built in the desert where I used to go Mt biking, etc....There is nothing I can do about it. I'm not going to start ongoingly broadcasting & exageratting negative info about Phx because whats done is done & I'll adapt.
Look were all adults here. Lets use this forum like adults. This is an information forum about RP NOT a place to achieve your agenda of hurting torism in RP. Im not saying that if something bad happens in RP that was CONFIRMED & TRUE to not disclose that info. NO...disclose it if you feel compeled to in a constructive way that could help someone. But their is a big big difference between relaying constructive helpfull factual information OR trying to accomplish ones destructive agenda towards RP.
STUART.....I agree completely w/ you, NO personal attacks..( but if thats the case please enforce it on everyone equally, there is clearly people on here that this rule doesnt seem to apply to )...Also a signature line on a forum board is used to describe the poster....It shouldnt be used as a repeating billboard for an angry person to achieve their goal of scareing away tourists from RP. By allowing forum members to get away w/ this sort of behavior you are basically throwing gasoline on a candle & causing arguments amoungst the forum members. I say we loose the agenda driven ridiculous signature lines or we can continue to look like a bunch of idiots fighting amoungst ourselves over a city we all love. Or if the agenga signature that bashes RP is allowed to stay then we can continue the bad blood & keep blasting back & fourth at eachother w/ our own signature billboards to counter the one bad apple that started it all.
WE COULD ALSO PUT THIS UP TO A VOTE that a signature line is meant to describe the poster not to trash Rocky Point. I would have to think that the majority of the people on this form would feel the same way I do.
LIFE IS SHORT...LETS ENJOY IT & STOP THE HATE......THE NEGATIVITY ON THIS FORUM ONLY TURNS PEOPLE OFF...IM SURE WE ARE LOOSING TONS OF POTENTIAL MEMBERS / POSTERS DUE TO THE NEGATIVE ENERGY ON THIS FORUM......I'M NEW HERE & I NOTICED IT RIGHT AWAY
Then Pete, it seems that you are frustrated with your signature because you are not telling it as you feel, if instead of "There are people on here who intentionally post... just put what you feel it seems you would like to say something to the effect "Submarine intentionally post...., as you say if it is a free forum why not!!, I am not defending anybody just say what you like in your signature and if it flies good for you!! the negativity you find is not going to go away by changing a signature, it is enbeded in that individuals persona and ultimately tells you about that individual personality, then you might get to know that person and realise WOW I guess I should not take people in forums seriously!!
Just my five cents!! :eek3:
Since when is a private enterprise a democracy? Do you get to vote at work to fire your boss because you don't like his/her policies? No, you don't. I get sick and tired of hearing about free speech and how I, as a lowly moderator, have somehow infringed upon people's God-given and Constitutional rights!
Guess what? It's the INTERNET. The Internet is NOT a democracy, it's a vast collection of private enterprises and you have no "rights" to anything. I don't have to respect your rights, your feelings, your opinions, or anything else about you. I have every right to tell you if you don't like it here, then freakin' leave. Nobody is forcing you to click on this website. :evil:
Since when is a private enterprise a democracy? Do you get to vote at work to fire your boss because you don't like his/her policies? No, you don't. I get sick and tired of hearing about free speech and how I, as a lowly moderator, have somehow infringed upon people's God-given and Constitutional rights!
Guess what? It's the INTERNET. The Internet is NOT a democracy, it's a vast collection of private enterprises and you have no "rights" to anything. I don't have to respect your rights, your feelings, your opinions, or anything else about you. I have every right to tell you if you don't like it here, then freakin' leave. Nobody is forcing you to click on this website. :evil:
Actually I thought the recent posts have been pretty tame compared to some of the previous battles we had. Sadly I lost many fellow soldiers (the coops) to the online war over Rocky Point (both in this forum and the previous one).
Since when is a private enterprise a democracy? Do you get to vote at work to fire your boss because you don't like his/her policies? No, you don't. I get sick and tired of hearing about free speech and how I, as a lowly moderator, have somehow infringed upon people's God-given and Constitutional rights!
Guess what? It's the INTERNET. The Internet is NOT a democracy, it's a vast collection of private enterprises and you have no "rights" to anything. I don't have to respect your rights, your feelings, your opinions, or anything else about you. I have every right to tell you if you don't like it here, then freakin' leave. Nobody is forcing you to click on this website. :evil:
Then Pete, it seems that you are frustrated with your signature because you are not telling it as you feel, if instead of "There are people on here who intentionally post... just put what you feel it seems you would like to say something to the effect "Submarine intentionally post...., as you say if it is a free forum why not!!, I am not defending anybody just say what you like in your signature and if it flies good for you!! the negativity you find is not going to go away by changing a signature, it is enbeded in that individuals persona and ultimately tells you about that individual personality, then you might get to know that person and realise WOW I guess I should not take people in forums seriously!!
Just my five cents!! :eek3:
The difference is, if Pete did that I wouldn't whine about it; but he can't because somebody whined about it and now we get to read neat red typed 'billboards'. Isn't change great?
Did we all miss 'sticks and stones' day in Kindergarten?
Actually I thought the recent posts have been pretty tame compared to some of the previous battles we had. Sadly I lost many fellow soldiers (the coops) to the online war over Rocky Point (both in this forum and the previous one).
....and we can all take a moment and remember them on Monday.
....and we can all take a moment and remember them on Monday.
Or not.
Ok....come on now Sub....why don't you take a vacation to Tahiti...it sounds like you really need one!!!! Or come down to Penasco in 2 weeks...I'll buy you a couple of drinks!!! You can even "caravan" down with me for your protection! :stir::rofl::cheers:
Since when is a private enterprise a democracy? Do you get to vote at work to fire your boss because you don't like his/her policies? No, you don't. I get sick and tired of hearing about free speech and how I, as a lowly moderator, have somehow infringed upon people's God-given and Constitutional rights!
Guess what? It's the INTERNET. The Internet is NOT a democracy, it's a vast collection of private enterprises and you have no "rights" to anything. I don't have to respect your rights, your feelings, your opinions, or anything else about you. I have every right to tell you if you don't like it here, then freakin' leave. Nobody is forcing you to click on this website. :evil:
Stuart....say no more......Ive got you pegged.... as long as it fits your agenda you will let it slide..
I'm new to this forum & I instantly noticed people w/ obvious bad intentions trying to do harm to RP's economy. And it seems to be totally accepted & permitted by some on this forum including you.
You say no personal attacks are permitted ( unless they are a friend of yours or they have your same agenda )...
You permit signature lines that are supposed to be used to describe the poster... as a place for a poster to repeatedly & ongoingly bash RP & freighten away tourists...( you must agree w/ Sub's destructive thought if you permit that )
Most OTHER forums are productive, help full & constructive & attract more & more members.
THE SAD FACT IS...This forum could have many more regular productive members. This forum is mostly ( not everyone ) comprised a small click of a handful of bitter pissed off regular posters who are upset that RP has grown in size. Its mainly being used by a limited amount of people posting over & over again & again. 90% of the actual posts under the threads are unrelated to RP & a complete waste of time. Most of the productive normal potential members do not stick around for obvious reasons. Bad moderation, negativity of posts, bitter angry people trying to hurt RP's economy, etc...
Check out other forums. You will see much more posting going on by a far greater range & number of posters. Here the forum moderator is excited that a thread got 200 replies. To bad 95% of the 200 replies accomplish & cover nothing.
TO THE PRODUCTIVE RP LOVERS ON THIS FORUM.....keep up the good work promoting & making RP a better place & since the so called moderator of this forum allows signature lines to be used as a place to advertise your agenda then copy my signature or make your own to expose the people on here that want to destroy tourism in RP...
TO THE ANGRY BITTER PEOPLE THAT WANT TO HURT RP TOURISM.....stay angry bitter & pissed off , be miserable, continue to be un productive & continue to let your so called friends try to harm torism in RP......what a great way to spend your life. You must be so proud of your amazing life accomplishments.
I will be having fun fishing, hanging out on RP's great beaches, promoting RP & posting here regulary so my red billboard signature warns any normal person that stumbles across this forum about the RP haters on this site.......
<sigh> Take a hike Pete. I've tried to be patient with you. As I told you and you still don't seem to get it, we are a dysfunctional family here, but we're a family.
<sigh> Take a hike Pete. I've tried to be patient with you. As I told you and you still don't seem to get it, we are a dysfunctional family here, but we're a family.
Hey Stuart, does that make me the evil step-sister or the crazy aunt? I say Russ is the eccentric uncle and Happy the grouchy grandfather. Manny is the cute kid brother, the peacemaker. You are obviously the patient dad.
Hey Stuart, does that make me the evil step-sister or the crazy aunt? I say Russ is the eccentric uncle and Happy the grouchy grandfather. Manny is the cute kid brother, the peacemaker. You are obviously the patient dad.
