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Get out the Sand bags !

Started by Old55 · Aug 15, 2023 · 56 replies
Old55
https://x.com/drhenz_wx/status/1691612514092724503?s=61&t=PpiQwtiMOdCjevRzWMfL5A
Jungle Jim
Looks like she just might jump the peninsula midway and the remainder of the eye will split over San Diego and Yuma.

Ever see a swimming pool overflow from rain water and hail?

Batten down the hatches boys.

We will be making the run south in hopes of catching some radical mud slinging in my new 700 hp Raptor R.
richwi
About 10 years ago before we moved to Penasco full time we lived in Anthem. A freak convolution of weather events occured and we got almost 6" of rain in 90 minutes. One of the most intense rains ever recording in the continental US. (most rain in shortest period) I remember saying to my wife "Wow, it's raining a lot...man, it looks like to pool is going to over flow...crap, the water is coming into the house!" Dozens of houses flooded, downed trees etc etc. WIthin days things were dry as a bone again,
MIRAMAR
Looks like it will hit Ensenada on Monday and take a more westerly pattern than previously predicted: https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_ep4+shtml/150034.shtml?cone
Jungle Jim
Looks more like somewhere between LA and Santa Barbara now.

A lot of Kalipornikators will be poopin in their pampers!
Old55
Saturday , Sunday and Monday early she be blowin!
https://www.windfinder.com/forecast/puerto_penasco
Old55
https://www.windy.com/?fbclid=IwAR3kwhRNbtDDxMSDfKBCsJEDZT2ZSnMDtV0XIA9vr8JFtPr6p9va9hOj8k8.
Old55
EEbmike is usually the best
http://eebmike.com/?fbclid=IwAR1hmIc-3_xibF919xQb2ZO5sySiw5smn1rlfu3HW4I6nXKVFe8s1wzDpYY
richwi
This surprises many people...Forecast Watch is a company that monitors and evaluates the prediction accuracy of many weather forecasters. The data show that for on-line sites The Weather Channel has the most accurate overall forecasts.
Old55
richwi said:

This surprises many people...Forecast Watch is a company that monitors and evaluates the prediction accuracy of many weather forecasters. The data show that for on-line sites The Weather Channel has the most accurate overall forecasts.

This is interesting from 9am today “
Although
there is fairly high confidence in the track prediction, Hilary's
oblique angle of approach to the west coast of the Baja California
peninsula makes it nearly impossible to know at this point if the
center will remain just offshore or move over the peninsula before
reaching the southwestern United States.
Old55
https://cdn.star.nesdis.noaa.gov/GOES16/ABI/SECTOR/eep/GEOCOLOR/GOES16-EEP-GEOCOLOR-900x540.gif
Think I would head home if I was down there.Miramar beach south especially.
Last edited: Aug 17, 2023 at 9:37 PM
Jungle Jim
So what's happening in PP today?

Anyone actually down there?
MIRAMAR
I've been watching this: https://www.sonoranresorts.mx/live/
Also, the beach was evacuated. Looks like a lot of rain, and north of Why Not store, the wash is flowing, along with the road to El Golfo (according to RP Times on Facebook).
I think this radar map says it all- stay away! https://weather.com/weather/radar/interactive/l/452ada4bafeff6566ebd5122cd54a1b58a02f1f6f56737b33d4da08336129dd0
Old55
MIRAMAR said:

I've been watching this: https://www.sonoranresorts.mx/live/
Also, the beach was evacuated. Looks like a lot of rain, and north of Why Not store, the wash is flowing, along with the road to El Golfo (according to RP Times on Facebook).
I think this radar map says it all- stay away! https://weather.com/weather/radar/interactive/l/452ada4bafeff6566ebd5122cd54a1b58a02f1f6f56737b33d4da08336129dd0

People that didnt leave RP today are in for a interesting tomorrow if heading north!
https://www.weather.gov/psr/
Terry C
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Old55
Terry C said:

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Lost kayaker weather royal!
joanC
Jungle Jim said:

So what's happening in PP today?

Anyone actually down there?

Hi

Been watching via cams on mirador beach by mannys until the power went out about 1/2 hr ago. It's going to br a messs. the waer is breaching the patio walls and going into the homes. did sand bags but they were washed away. i'll3262047455818244173.jpg
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joanC
Jungle Jim said:

So what's happening in PP today?

Anyone actually down there?

I have pics but they won't upload. it's going to be a mess for anyone beachfront.
joanC
joanC said:

I have pics but they won't upload. it's going to be a mess for anyone beachfront.

the aftermath
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rplarry
Hi Joan, thank you for the picture.

Any other commentary of damage, impact ? Can’t quite make out what the picture is showing.

any reports from Las Conchas ?

thank you
joanC
joanC said:

the aftermath

the two above pics show the waves breaching the patio walls. the last pic is the foam that remains on the patios. water and sand have entered homes. Most storm shutters have been damaged. Some were whipped off, wind. I have had no news from LC These places are immediately east of Manny's.
joanC
joanC said:

the two above pics show the waves breaching the patio walls. the last pic is the foam that remains on the patios. water and sand have entered homes. Most storm shutters have been damaged. Some were whipped off, wind. I have had no news from LC These places are immediately east of Manny's.
rplarry
joanC said:

the two above pics show the waves breaching the patio walls. the last pic is the foam that remains on the patios. water and sand have entered homes. Most storm shutters have been damaged. Some were whipped off, wind. I have had no news from LC These places are immediately east of Manny's.


thank you
Old55
A video of poorly constructed wall section of Las Palomas peeling off was removed from Facebook by the lady that posted it.She and her husband have a new business doing day trips on a big assed power boat.I bett the blow back showing the reality of construction standards on Sandy Beach and what happens in even a minor Tropical storm like this got pretty rough.
Last edited: Aug 21, 2023 at 9:45 AM
MIRAMAR
Looks like Las Palomas lost part of it's roof https://www.tiktok.com/@liveinrockypoint/video/7269545497851972907
randy and patty
MIRAMAR said:

Looks like Las Palomas lost part of it's roof https://www.tiktok.com/@liveinrockypoint/video/7269545497851972907

Yike, doesn’t look structura. More a shade awning?
randy and patty
Anyone know how Princesa and Las Palmas fared? Those 2 seem more concrete and block constructio.
Old55
randy and patty said:

Yike, doesn’t look structura. More a shade awning?

Randy check the end of the video….three stories of ext. wall cladding ….this is a huge problem
JoseAz
just got an update on our place in section 5, all good.
Our manager reports storm was nowhere near as bad as the last hurricane

that eastern end has had some of the biggest storm problems over the last few years so maybe most are in good shape
CheddarBob
Old55 said:

Randy check the end of the video….three stories of ext. wall cladding ….this is a huge problem
randy and patty
Old55 said:

Randy check the end of the video….three stories of ext. wall cladding ….this is a huge problem

Didn’t realize it was a video . Looks bad
Old55
CheddarBob said:



Bob can you imagine trying to talk anyone into buying one of these after seeing that…pass
Jungle Jim
Maybe wait awhile for a real earthquake with a most certain tsunami to follow and water down the coastal dust clouds.

You all do know that out there in the Gulf of California between PP and San Felipe under the parking lot flat bottom sandy shrimping grounds is a steep walled canyon filled with Colorado River sand and gravel at least two miles deep known as the San Andreas Fault. Our side moves north and the Baja side moves south...............when they want to.

When Bozo de Clown King declares a "climate change emergency executive order" in the next day or so it won't mean shit to good old Mother Nature.

Might find some really cool Mammoth and Mastodon tusks on the newly formed beach front properties.
Last edited: Aug 21, 2023 at 10:21 PM
Old55
Jungle Jim said:

Maybe wait awhile for a real earthquake with a most certain tsunami to follow and water down the coastal dust clouds.

You all do know that out there in the Gulf of California between PP and San Felipe under the parking lot flat bottom sandy shrimping grounds is a steep walled canyon filled with Colorado River sand and gravel at least two miles deep known as the San Andreas Fault. Our side moves north and the Baja side moves south...............when they want to.

When Bozo de Clown King declares a "climate change emergency executive order" in the next day or so it won't mean shit to good old Mother Nature.

Might find some really cool Mammoth and Mastodon tusks on the newly formed beach front properties.

Yeah hottest summer in recorded history …everything is fine !
https://www.wired.com/story/climate-change-facts/
Terry C
joanC said:

I have pics but they won't upload. it's going to be a mess for anyone beachfront.

Just copy and paste them on here
LAS CONCHAS UNDERGROUND
Old55 said:

Yeah hottest summer in recorded history …everything is fine !
https://www.wired.com/story/climate-change-facts/

Your facts are incorrect! Not the hotter summer EVER! Recent SCIENTIFIC STUDIES FROM Harvard and Yale all say Global warming is a hoax! Co2 is good for the environment! Wake up and stop listening to government propaganda !
Southbeacher
LAS CONCHAS UNDERGROUND said:

Your facts are incorrect! Not the hotter summer EVER! Recent SCIENTIFIC STUDIES FROM Harvard and Yale all say Global warming is a hoax! Co2 is good for the environment! Wake up and stop listening to government propaganda !

Yep -- not nearly the hottest summer. Blatant lies out there on mainstream news. Those wanting to fumigate their climate-scammed minds could begin by tuning into Tony Heller's short, informative reality clips at realclimatechange.com. Sampling:
Maduro steve
Southbeacher said:

Yep -- not nearly the hottest summer. Blatant lies out there on mainstream news. Those wanting to fumigate their climate-scammed minds could begin by tuning into Tony Heller's short, informative reality clips at realclimatechange.com. Sampling:


If co2 is killing the planet why not plant more trees . Name me a time climate hasn't changed. This is nothing more than a money crab .
ernesto
Maduro steve said:

If co2 is killing the planet why not plant more trees . Name me a time climate hasn't changed. This is nothing more than a money crab .

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Old55
LAS CONCHAS UNDERGROUND said:

Your facts are incorrect! Not the hotter summer EVER! Recent SCIENTIFIC STUDIES FROM Harvard and Yale all say Global warming is a hoax! Co2 is good for the environment! Wake up and stop listening to government propaganda !

Idiot and of course our own clown Southbeacher likes it!
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/july-2023-is-hottest-month-ever-recorded-on-earth/#:~:text=Because%20July%20is%20climatologically%20the,well%20as%20on%20other%20paleoclimate
Old55
Maduro steve said:

If co2 is killing the planet why not plant more trees . Name me a time climate hasn't changed. This is nothing more than a money crab .

Oh brother …… here you go : https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/features/CarbonCycle/page5.php
Old55
Southbeacher said:

Yep -- not nearly the hottest summer. Blatant lies out there on mainstream news. Those wanting to fumigate their climate-scammed minds could begin by tuning into Tony Heller's short, informative reality clips at realclimatechange.com. Sampling:


He is a outer who doesnt even use his real name….like you coward https://www.google.com/search?q=tone+heller+global+warming+denier&rlz=1C9BKJA_enUS844MX844&oq=tone+heller+global+warming+denier&aqs=chrome..69i57.15440j0j7&hl=en-US&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8
Idyllwild
LAS CONCHAS UNDERGROUND said:

Your facts are incorrect! Not the hotter summer EVER! Recent SCIENTIFIC STUDIES FROM Harvard and Yale all say Global warming is a hoax! Co2 is good for the environment! Wake up and stop listening to government propaganda !

This is emphatically not true. Retired physical scientist here.
CheddarBob
Hoax my ass guess you weren’t one of the 40 million people choking on smoke for 3/4 of the summer. I know I know the earth is flat.
Southbeacher
Old55 said:

Wait . . . so your real name is Old55? The mainstream media's (feeble, and predictably misleading) attempt at damage control, along with your en vogue methodology of responding to facts with name calling is a less-than-convincing rebuttal. That said, I did momentarily overstep my commitment to be silent on this forum regarding political (pseudoscientific) matters, and will tow the line responding to this and other "I'm a scientist" kinds of comments.
richwi
LAS CONCHAS UNDERGROUND said:

Your facts are incorrect! Not the hotter summer EVER! Recent SCIENTIFIC STUDIES FROM Harvard and Yale all say Global warming is a hoax! Co2 is good for the environment! Wake up and stop listening to government propaganda !

Could you please tell us where you got this info from Harvard and Yale? I am a retired secondary researchef (I did research on others people's work) and I have access to the data bases of the Yale School for the Environment, which catalogs all envirmental/climte research done at Yale and it seems what you are refering to doesn't seem to exist. I went to the Harvard University Center for the Enviroment on line research catalog and cannot find anything like that there either. Perhaps yo have a source I do not have access to?
Old55
CheddarBob said:

Hoax my ass guess you weren’t one of the 40 million people choking on smoke for 3/4 of the summer. I know I know the earth is flat.

You laugh but the same gang lean flat earth and Jesus had a pet dinosaur!
Old55
Southbeacher said:

Wait . . . so your real name is Old55? The mainstream media's (feeble, and predictably misleading) attempt at damage control, along with your en vogue methodology of responding to facts with name calling is a less-than-convincing rebuttal. That said, I did momentarily overstep my commitment to be silent on this forum regarding political (pseudoscientific) matters, and will tow the line responding to this and other "I'm a scientist" kinds of comments.

Your fellow right wing troll started it if you noticed…
Old55
richwi said:

Could you please tell us where you got this info from Harvard and Yale? I am a retired secondary researchef (I did research on others people's work) and I have access to the data bases of the Yale School for the Environment, which catalogs all envirmental/climte research done at Yale and it seems what you are refering to doesn't seem to exist. I went to the Harvard University Center for the Enviroment on line research catalog and cannot find anything like that there either. Perhaps yo have a source I do not have access to?

Seen it before…some right wing extraction industry funded think tank had a summer seminar program they puff up
joanC
We may have a babbling "genious" on board with Old55.
rplarry
Idyllwild said:

This is emphatically not true. Retired physical scientist here.


The great thing about Covid, and the pandemic, is that people who claimed to be brilliant, and claimed their narcissistic “scientific” egos knew everything , and had to say what their background was, people like Fauci, they got hammered and lost all credibility. They were WRONG about vaccine efficacy, masks, social distancing, LOCKDOWNS, all that shit was all wrong, and they touted it like they knew what the heck was settled science, and they look like fools now. FOOLS !

How’s that vaccine working out for you when you arrogantly claimed how well it worked and people who wanted to “wait and see” were knuckle dragging Neanderthals ??

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Natural as well as anthropogenic factors cause warming
The geological archive reveals that Earth’s climate has varied as long as the planet has existed, with natural cold and warm phases. The Little Ice Age ended as recently as 1850. Therefore, it is no surprise that we now are experiencing a period of warming.
Warming is far slower than predicted

The world has warmed significantly less than predicted by IPCC on the basis of modeled anthropogenic forcing. The gap between the real world and the modeled world tells us that we are far from understanding climate change.

Climate policy relies on inadequate models
Climate models have many shortcomings and are not remotely plausible as global policy tools. They blow up the effect of greenhouse gases such as CO2. In addition, they ignore the fact that enriching the atmosphere with CO2 is beneficial.
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CO2 is not a pollutant. It is essential to all life on Earth. Photosynthesis is a blessing. More CO2 is beneficial for nature, greening the Earth: additional CO2 in the air has promoted growth in global plant biomass. It is also good for agriculture, increasing the yields of crops worldwide.
CO2 is not a pollutant. It is essential to all life on Earth. Photosynthesis is a blessing. More CO2 is beneficial for nature, greening the Earth: additional CO2 in the air has promoted growth in global plant biomass. It is also good for agriculture, increasing the yields of crops worldwide.
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CheddarBob
That’s it folks the one article above my reply declares climate change a hoax. January 6 2021 hoax? 4 indictments hoax? The perfect phone call hoax? The ability to read between the lines in this day and age is more necessary now than it ever has been.
MIRAMAR
OK all- Lady Jeeper is gone, Stuart is gone, so let's try to keep this on track. Take the political discussions to this thread and have fun at it, otherwise, let's keep this to Penasco/Sea of Cortez.

https://www.rockypointtalk.com/forums/off-topic.12/
Old55
CheddarBob said:

That’s it folks the one article above my reply declares climate change a hoax. January 6 2021 hoax? 4 indictments hoax? The perfect phone call hoax? The ability to read between the lines in this day and age is more necessary now than it ever has been.

They are just so pathetic .
Larry most likely believes Jesus did in fact have a pet dinosaur and the earth is 6000 years old too but the
Republican elite know climate change is real. They also know their political fortunes are chained to lying on behalf of the fossil fuel billionaires and corporations.

The entire point is to profit off the cause of the destruction and then pivot to profiting off the destruction itself
Last edited: Aug 25, 2023 at 7:35 AM
Old55
joanC said:

We may have a babbling "genious" on board with Old55.

Always good to here from the Mexico hating Queen of shady sounding land deals !
AZRob
I'm happy it didn't get destroyed again. Down there.

2 Storms got lucky.
Southbeacher
Old55 said:

Your fellow right wing troll started it if you noticed…

Uh . . . Allow me to refer to your post of August 22. I repented for (also) going (what is considered) political in my response. But I won't take credit for starting anything. Only blame for being momentarily pulled into it.