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Any Covid restrictions & First trip in a while…

Started by JPK_AZ · Dec 26, 2021 · 84 replies
JPK_AZ
Apologies if I missed a different thread on this, but are there any current Covid restrictions in Penasco? Are masks required inside or outside?

This will be my first trip in 5 years so if there anything else important to know, please feel free to share. Thanks!
brokenwave
You are supposed to wear masks when driving with 2 or more people in a car. (this rule is still valid, but many ignore it)
We always wear them driving thru Sonoyta and when in Penasco, otherwise you're looking to get pulled over for a
payout to the officer, my son was pulled over in Sept. in Sonoyta for no mask and cost him $60 because they
bullied him into paying them.

A mask is required entering stores and many restaurants, in restaurants masks can be removed when seated.
Some places are getting lax about masks.
There might be some places requiring a mask outdoors I'm not aware of, but keep one in your pocket/purse.
You don't need to have proof of a Covid vaccination or test if you're a US citizen/resident,
either in Mexico or re-entering the US, but that can change at anytime.

In the Sonotya area drive the speed limit 40KPH (24MPH), stop at stop signs for 3-5 seconds.
Really pay attention to the speed limit sign's otherwise it will cost you $20-160, officer will try to make you pay him.
If you get stopped either pay at the city station, it's 1,100 pesos last I heard, or see if the officer will take $40.

I always travel thru Sonoyta with $20-40 in my travel wallet and no credit/debit card in it, same for other riders with you.

We pay for most things using Pesos we get at a Citi Banamex ATM in Sam's club, or next door in the Bodega, or in Super Ley.
The exchange rate from them is around 20.5 - 1, many places will only give you 17/18 -1, anything less than 20 pay in pesos
over 20-1 use dollars. Doing that You save 10-15% on almost everything.

Using a CC have them bill it in Pesos, if you can use a credit/debit card without foreign transaction fees.
Enjoy your trip.
Mexico Joe
↑↑↑↑↑ THIS but we have stopped bringing any cash with us. If they want my money they can follow me to the police station. Obv they're not going to.
Old55
Give the Mexicans a break and mask up. A dinner at a Denver steakhouse for 8 last week resulted in all 8 getting covid.The unvaxxed bro is really sick and so is the Johnson shot guy but not as bad…..The rest are on the mend.
Maduro steve
Mean while, we have open borders.
Queen of Kings
Old55 said:

Give the Mexicans a break and mask up. A dinner at a Denver steakhouse for 8 last week resulted in all 8 getting covid.The unvaxxed bro is really sick and so is the Johnson shot guy but not as bad…..The rest are on the mend.

These people are so lucky. Now they have some protection from natural immunity. Tasty steak dinner and health benefits. It was a 2fer!
Old55
The unvaxxed bro is now hospitalized….has 3 kids but at least you are amused…
Porta56
That sucks. Hopefully he recovers quickly.
ernesto
Sorry for that. My brother in law passed from covid a couple months ago. Anti vaxxer anti masker,he was 63. His last words were " get the shot"
Maduro steve
Sorry to hear about your family member ,did he have any underlying issues? If the vaccine and masks worked then why is it that there are more cases of the China virus under this government than the last . I for the first time have refused to get the regular flue shot and this new vaccine shot. I no longer listen to all this fear porn and I do not believe any of info this government and the media is spreading .
Queen of Kings
Old55 said:

The unvaxxed bro is now hospitalized….has 3 kids but at least you are amused…

Oh no, people go to hospitals for illnesses. Once he gets out, he is better than vaccinated. Like I said, lucky him.
Your whining definitely amuses me. Keep going!
ernesto
Maduro steve said:

Sorry to hear about your family member ,did he have any underlying issues? If the vaccine and masks worked then why is it that there are more cases of the China virus under this government than the last . I for the first time have refused to get the regular flue shot and this new vaccine shot. I no longer listen to all this fear porn and I do not believe any of info this government and the media is spreading .

Well as a matter of fact, he did have an underlying condition, Steve. He was stupid, just like you and Queen. You can't fix stupid, but Covid can.
Maduro steve
So , if I get the shots against the China virus and the regular flue witch they only get right maybe 30% of the time I'll be safe . Wrong , it is proven you can still get sick and can pass to others . If you doubt me just ask the navy about that ship at Gauntanmo navy base that were all vaced and boosted and now all have the virus, so much for the shots . Herd immunity is my choice , the governments is not my doctor. If your government was really concerned about your well-being they would seal up the borders and stop the flow of millions of illegals that are bring in more the just the China virus . This whole thing is political !!
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Maduro steve
The cdc is warns people to now avoid cruise lines no matter what your vaccination status , what does that tell you .
Mexico Joe
Maduro steve said:

So , if I get the shots against the China virus and the regular flue witch they only get right maybe 30% of the time I'll be safe . Wrong , it is proven you can still get sick and can pass to others . If you doubt me just ask the navy about that ship at Gauntanmo navy base that were all vaced and boosted and now all have the virus, so much for the shots . Herd immunity is my choice , the governments is not my doctor. If your government was really concerned about your well-being they would seal up the borders and stop the flow of millions of illegals that are bring in more the just the China virus . This whole thing is political !!


This is the most words Steve has ever written on this forum by 42... Rocky Point Talk. Nothing to say about Rocky Point for months on end. Mention the virus and boom! As John Madden would say. RIP
Idyllwild
I have 4 or 5 spreaders of heath misinformation on this forum blocked, so I don’t see their the products of their imaginary science Ph.D.s.
Queen of Kings
Idyllwild said:

I have 4 or 5 spreaders of heath misinformation on this forum blocked, so I don’t see their the products of their imaginary science Ph.D.s.

Do you also stick your fingers in your ears and yell nah nah nah? Are you so weak minded that the 'misinformation' might sway you into doing something detrimental to your health? I don't think the internet is for you. Hazardous to your health.
Old55
Mexico Joe said:

This is the most words Steve has ever written on this forum by 42... Rocky Point Talk. Nothing to say about Rocky Point for months on end. Mention the virus and boom! As John Madden would say. RIP

Hope he stays healthy ….good luck to all in the new year!
rplarry
Old55 said:

The unvaxxed bro is now hospitalized….has 3 kids but at least you are amused…


i sincerely hope he recovers and is on the mend soon. I also hope they don’t end up killing him in the hospital by putting him on a vent with Remdesivir. That combo has taken 100’s of thousands of lives.

so it sounds like all the others were vaxxed, which would mean, the 1 unvaxxed bro probably got it from one of the 7 vaxxed ?

That’s how it’s been shaking out lately it looks like
Old55
rplarry said:

i sincerely hope he recovers and is on the mend soon. I also hope they don’t end up killing him in the hospital by putting him on a vent with Remdesivir. That combo has taken 100’s of thousands of lives.

so it sounds like all the others were vaxxed, which would mean, the 1 unvaxxed bro probably got it from one of the 7 vaxxed ?

That’s how it’s been shaking out lately it looks like

Idiot
rplarry
Old55 said:

Idiot


math
rplarry
Old55 said:

Idiot


and makes sure you get that 3rd and 4th booster too
Old55
rplarry said:

and makes sure you get that 3rd and 4th booster too

Be safe Larry….idiot
Maduro steve
rplarry said:

i sincerely hope he recovers and is on the mend soon. I also hope they don’t end up killing him in the hospital by putting him on a vent with Remdesivir. That combo has taken 100’s of thousands of lives.

so it sounds like all the others were vaxxed, which would mean, the 1 unvaxxed bro probably got it from one of the 7 vaxxed ?

That’s how it’s been shaking out lately it looks like

So , it doesn't really matter if your vaxxed and wearing a face diaper there is a chance you'll be infected, it all comes down to whether you don't have any underlying issues . All this effort over a virus you have a 99.87% chance of surviving.
ernesto
„Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.“

Mark Twain
Queen of Kings
ernesto said:

„Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.“

Mark Twain

You will get no argument from me......
Mexico Joe
ernesto said:

„Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.“

Mark Twain


I only entertain these fucks to get satisfaction of trolling someone otherwise when I'm dead serious and an irrational person wants to argue about reality I shut down. You can't win an argument/discussion with an irrational minded individual. The rules of reality and rationale do not apply to irrational people. Reality is NOT a constraint with an irrational minded individual. That's why when JKF didn't pop back up on the grassy knoll a few weeks ago there was already another rabbit hole answer RESPONSE as to why. When reality doesn't matter your argument can go any which way you want. Hard to PLAY A GAME WITH SOMEONE WHEN THEY'RE (THERE THEIR) PLAYING A DIFFERENT GAME WITH DIFFERENT RULES.
brokenwave
FYI, the Covid cases have been increasing mucho in Penasco, another 21 people were added to the infected total yesterday, 700 for Sonora.
The sad part is that this total in less than 50% of the real total is, because people won't go or can't afford to go to the Dr. unless
they are really sick, so many cases are never reported.
Penasco doesn't have the needed hospital resources to handle a huge outbreak and 21 in one day is huge for this town.
Just waiting for the denial remarks from the usual suspects.
mondone
Mexico Joe said:

I only entertain these fucks to get satisfaction of trolling someone otherwise when I'm dead serious and an irrational person wants to argue about reality I shut down. You can't win an argument/discussion with an irrational minded individual. The rules of reality and rationale do not apply to irrational people. Reality is NOT a constraint with an irrational minded individual. That's why when JKF didn't pop back up on the grassy knoll a few weeks ago there was already another rabbit hole answer RESPONSE as to why. When reality doesn't matter your argument can go any which way you want. Hard to PLAY A GAME WITH SOMEONE WHEN THEY'RE (THERE THEIR) PLAYING A DIFFERENT GAME WITH DIFFERENT RULES.


Joe Walsh - Walk Away - You Can't Argue With a Sick Mind, (March 1976) - Bing video
Queen of Kings
Mexico Joe said:

I only entertain these fucks to get satisfaction of trolling someone otherwise when I'm dead serious and an irrational person wants to argue about reality I shut down. You can't win an argument/discussion with an irrational minded individual. The rules of reality and rationale do not apply to irrational people. Reality is NOT a constraint with an irrational minded individual. That's why when JKF didn't pop back up on the grassy knoll a few weeks ago there was already another rabbit hole answer RESPONSE as to why. When reality doesn't matter your argument can go any which way you want. Hard to PLAY A GAME WITH SOMEONE WHEN THEY'RE (THERE THEIR) PLAYING A DIFFERENT GAME WITH DIFFERENT RULES.

Thank the Lord we have you as one of the only 'rational' people on these boards. Your explanation really enlightened us............
Queen of Kings
brokenwave said:

FYI, the Covid cases have been increasing mucho in Penasco, another 21 people were added to the infected total yesterday, 700 for Sonora.
The sad part is that this total in less than 50% of the real total is, because people won't go or can't afford to go to the Dr. unless
they are really sick, so many cases are never reported.
Penasco doesn't have the needed hospital resources to handle a huge outbreak and 21 in one day is huge for this town.
Just waiting for the denial remarks from the usual suspects.

You are aware that the chinese virus people are getting now, after being vaxxed, is usually very mild and much less serious right? In other words, more like a case of mild flu.
21 positive cases isn't huge or anything close to huge.
brokenwave
Queen of Kings said:

You are aware that the chinese virus people are getting now, after being vaxxed, is usually very mild and much less serious right? In other words, more like a case of mild flu.
21 positive cases isn't huge or anything close to huge.


Yes I'm aware, the Omnicron is more mild for Vaxxed people but still a problem, in time maybe a Big Problem.

For Penasco, 21 people in a day is huge because they lack the medical facilities to handle more than 10 serious cases.
It was reported that Penasco has 5 ventilators and 5-10 ICU beds total.


Many of the people living in Penasco who were given the J&J or Astrazeneca vaccine which are less effective than
the Moderna or the Pfizer shots. Booster shots are not widely available yet info from my Local friend.
I read Penasco was approx 70% vaccinated.

The ICU hospitalizations from this latest round are nearing the max in the US from what we saw last year and we still have
more of this before the peak..

I don't even know if you could even call this the China Flu anymore because Covid/Omnocron has mutated mucho because
of the Africa and India mutations. How about Third World Flu.

My local buddy who had Covid and got the Astrazenica shots is actually very concerned
from the latest surge in Penasco, because there are plenty of people he knows who are now sick from Covid or bad Colds/Flu??
He and his family are not going to risk it and have been staying away from Penasco and away from crowds.

This post was more of an FYI, we're going to Penasco next week for 3 weeks and will probably hang out at our house
more than usual, as we see for ourselves how bad this has become down there.
Where would you rather be treated if you got Covid? In the US or in Penasco?
Idyllwild
Several of our neighbors were diagnosed with Covid following a mostly outdoor event on Christmas Day. One was hospitalized in Phoenix due to a compromised immune system. But there was also a bad cold with severe cough circulating. People getting it have tested negative for Covid and have a bad cough (but nothing else) that lasts up to two weeks.
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brokenwave
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If only our leaders would understand this, but instead they would rather spend Billions of $ with medical treatments.
Rather than $.50-$5 for a mask and enforce wearing them.

I'm not wild about wearing a mask, but along with good hygiene,
it's the simple solution to reduce people's chances of getting Covid, the Flu or a cold.
Oh, that would be too easy.
Queen of Kings
If you think you are safe hiding beyond a nearly useless mask, you really are living in a fantasy world. The chinese virus is burning itself out. This last mutation is proof. As the brain dead liberals say, follow the science. Mine, not yours.
ernesto
Queen of Kings said:

You will get no argument from me......

Huh?
brokenwave
Queen of Kings said:

If you think you are safe hiding beyond a nearly useless mask, you really are living in a fantasy world. The chinese virus is burning itself out. This last mutation is proof. As the brain dead liberals say, follow the science. Mine, not yours.

The way I look at wearing a mask is it can't hurt, 100% effective, probably not.
I'll use a scenario about, if you had to run a field where people are shooting bullets across or burn to death from the fire at your back.

If you were offered the chance to wear body armor, what would you do? Most people would run.

I'd wear the body armor and run like heck. So wearing a good mask like a N95 and practicing good hygiene is my body armor.

Too bad all people don't understand science and how the body works.
Mexico Joe
Queen of Kings said:

If you think you are safe hiding beyond a nearly useless mask, you really are living in a fantasy world. The chinese virus is burning itself out. This last mutation is proof. As the brain dead liberals say, follow the science. Mine, not yours.


You're the biggest gaslighter I have ever seen! But I guess that's pretty much the only principle that Republicans believe in these days... well that and tax cuts for the 1%. Those are the only 2. Fuck, now that I think about it, you'd be an excellent candidate. Moron, unintelligent, racist, sexist, doesn't believe in science, gaslighter, doesn't travel to Mexico, can't formulate sentences, childish, poor vocabulary, white.... You'd win the primary for sure!!!!

I think you could at least get an advisory job for Kari Lake.
Maduro steve
You can not vaccinate or boost your way around this virus as your AOC who is vacced and twice boosted along with hundreds of thousands other are proving as we speak . Of the 800,000+ deaths ,75% died with underlying issues 200,000 died of the actual virus, this was on national TV morning. Cold and flue season is here to stay, they nerver ever go away .
brokenwave
It's your choice to believe or not believe Covid is a real problem.

Maybe you can get yourself exposed to Covid like AOC did and let us know how it went.

That way you can believe the science one way or another with first hand info and maybe pick-up a few non-believers from here..
ernesto
And if we don't ever hear from you again, we can guess that it went badly. No hard feelings. Really.
Queen of Kings
ernesto said:

Huh?

I see you are little slow on the uptake. You and the cripple brothers by chance?
Queen of Kings
Mexico Joe said:

You're the biggest gaslighter I have ever seen! But I guess that's pretty much the only principle that Republicans believe in these days... well that and tax cuts for the 1%. Those are the only 2. Fuck, now that I think about it, you'd be an excellent candidate. Moron, unintelligent, racist, sexist, doesn't believe in science, gaslighter, doesn't travel to Mexico, can't formulate sentences, childish, poor vocabulary, white.... You'd win the primary for sure!!!!

I think you could at least get an advisory job for Kari Lake.

How dare you insinuate I am a Republican! Don't forget I loathe loudmouth cripples.
rplarry
Queen of Kings said:

How dare you insinuate I am a Republican! Don't forget I loathe loudmouth cripples.


why do you stoop so low ?

Seriously, answer the question, why so low ?
Queen of Kings
rplarry said:

why do you stoop so low ?

Seriously, answer the question, why so low ?

Just because its you. The gloves are off. The cripple wants to insult and throw names. I love poking him. He is one angry person. The madder he gets, the happier I get. Just call me the puppet master.
joester
We're into our 3rd week since symptoms showed up on Christmas. We've been careful, triple shots (2 Pfizer in March, booster in October) and masking up. Fortunately, no fever, but 2 weeks of this really sucked, and now still a lingering cough. Omicron will touch most peoples lives in one way or another - we're glad we're as protected as possible, and good to know we're on the mend. Can only guess how bad it could it have been had we not been vaccinated. Stay safe people, stay healthy. Peace.
Old55
joester said:

We're into our 3rd week since symptoms showed up on Christmas. We've been careful, triple shots (2 Pfizer in March, booster in October) and masking up. Fortunately, no fever, but 2 weeks of this really sucked, and now still a lingering cough. Omicron will touch most peoples lives in one way or another - we're glad we're as protected as possible, and good to know we're on the mend. Can only guess how bad it could it have been had we not been vaccinated. Stay safe people, stay healthy. Peace.

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brokenwave
Sadly this isn't going away anytime soon. Some people it won't affect too bad and then there's the group who will get their butt kicked by it. My friend tested positive had the J&J shot and a booster has been in bed almost a week with fever. Where he works 90% of his co-workers have now had Covid.
joester
We're still staying home pretty much - the necessary trips to store have us wearing our N95's. Forgot to mention Teri had a few nites of night sweats, without a fever tho. Those first 10 days or more had us napping quite a bit - but appetite, smell and taste all fine. We're close to being out of it - we have a cooler of beer left over from before Christmas, I keep draining the cold water, and adding a new 20# bag of ice - hoping to drink them this weekend watching football. Stay safe.
Queen of Kings
Thank God the chinese virus is weakening to the point it is about as deadly as the common flu. I expect it to turn into the equivalent of the common cold in a few months.
brokenwave
Queen of Kings said:

Thank God the chinese virus is weakening to the point it is about as deadly as the common flu. I expect it to turn into the equivalent of the common cold in a few months.

We all hope you're right on this count, But I'll get a Booster shot just in case.
ernesto
CDC is predicting 62,000 deaths in the next month. That doesn't sound like the common flu.
rplarry
ernesto said:

CDC is predicting 62,000 deaths in the next month. That doesn't sound like the common flu.


In all good sincerity , after all the failure, after all the misinformation, and most importantly, after all the censorship and blatant lies….

Are you really still trusting the CDC or the FDA or the NIH ? For real ?
rplarry
Queen of Kings said:

Just because its you. The gloves are off. The cripple wants to insult and throw names. I love poking him. He is one angry person. The madder he gets, the happier I get. Just call me the puppet master.


you accuse him of being angry and you enjoy teasing him ? The happier you get ?

You sure must not have a lot of happiness in your life to get happy over that

You are the pot calling the kettle black. Your 4 yr old , narcissistic vindictiveness is mental at the least.

You’ve got issues young lady
Maduro steve
ernesto said:

CDC is predicting 62,000 deaths in the next month. That doesn't sound like the common flu.

Since when has the cdc gotten anything right , fear porn .
brokenwave
ernesto said:

CDC is predicting 62,000 deaths in the next month. That doesn't sound like the common flu.

There were 42K deaths in Dec from Covid, with this new strain cases graph looking like the Space Shuttle taking off
62K deaths might be conservative. Hopefully less.
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ernesto
rplarry said:

In all good sincerity , after all the failure, after all the misinformation, and most importantly, after all the censorship and blatant lies….

Are you really still trusting the CDC or the FDA or the NIH ? For real ?

OK , let's see your trusted source.
Bob Oso
Thought I read that the CDC is finally fessin' up that the death numbers reported didn't distinguish between people that died 'from' Covid, and people that died 'with' Covid.
rplarry
ernesto said:

OK , let's see your trusted source.


Funny fellow Ernie. Funny stuff

Tell me more about your trusted sources first. I know it’s not the CDC, FDA , NIH or the beloved god of science, King Fauci

Being a smart guy, I know those are not your sources of covid truth. So who are your sources ?
ernesto
I'm open to ideas. All info is good. Who are your trusted sources?
AZRob
Firsthand knowledge here, everyone in my house got the omicron already. It lasted 2 days for half of us and 3-4 days for the rest. I took one of my kids to the doctor and they would not prescribe any meds. Told me to make hot tea and honey for cough (which was not bad more of a tickle) and drink plenty of OJ and if a fever happens take Tylenol to bring it down (two had fever first day everyone else no fever). Don't believe the hype you see on tv.
brokenwave
AZRob said:

Firsthand knowledge here, everyone in my house got the omicron already. It lasted 2 days for half of us and 3-4 days for the rest. I took one of my kids to the doctor and they would not prescribe any meds. Told me to make hot tea and honey for cough (which was not bad more of a tickle) and drink plenty of OJ and if a fever happens take Tylenol to bring it down (two had fever first day everyone else no fever). Don't believe the hype you see on tv.

Sure the new's makes a big story out of most everything, Covid too..
But ask your Dr or nurse friends about it and you'll see they believe it's dangerous and to pay attention to it and it's trends.

Too bad everyone reacts differently, with the Omicron strain my wife's best friend now has Covid, with mild symptoms,
her boyfriend had a high fever and symptoms like the worse flu or Pneumonia he ever had.
They both had the booster vaccine.
Our gym buddies in their late 20's, both had high fevers and bad flu symptoms for almost 1 week.
With the Beta and Delta strain, I know 4 people who died from it.
Idyllwild
Everyone is a tough guy until they can’t breathe.
rplarry
Queen of Kings said:

Thank you. What can I say, I enjoy what I enjoy. Torturing the cripple is one of my joys in life.
P.S. You also have issues. Grammar issues.


you are trivial. And weak
ernesto
Idyllwild said:

Everyone is a tough guy until they can’t breathe.

Air is a lot like sex, it's only really important to you when you're not getting any.
Queen of Kings
rplarry said:

you are trivial. And weak

And you still have grammar issues. But thank you for the praise.
brokenwave
Fyi, Penasco on Thursday had 55 new cases and today had another 88 cases.
Wonder how many more in the next 7-10 days after the RCP concerts?
Old55
Idyllwild said:

Everyone is a tough guy until they can’t breathe.

Or when the federales mix gas with a pepsi and shoot it up your nose….I confessed in 15 seconds
dirtsurfer
Here is an article that seems pretty honest and fair to both sides [that there ARE two sides] and a health issue is politicized is bizarre & senseless but read from this Doc discussing his patients who have been vaxxed & boosted and still get Omicron or one of the other harsh cold viruses floating around: https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/dr-marc-siegel-patients-omicron-three-vax-shots
dirtsurfer
Maduro steve said:

You can not vaccinate or boost your way around this virus as your AOC who is vacced and twice boosted along with hundreds of thousands other are proving as we speak . Of the 800,000+ deaths ,75% died with underlying issues 200,000 died of the actual virus, this was on national TV morning. Cold and flue season is here to stay, they nerver ever go away .

Vaccinations are well documented to reduce symptoms and the likelihood of hospitalization. My ER Doc nurse says 95% of the people in her hospital with Covid and in the ICU have never been vaccinated. They may have underlying conditions but without Covid they would not be in the hospital either. So I guess, for me, If I had underlying conditions there is 100% likelihood that I would be vaxxed. Also, I just don’t like to be sick, miss work or fun so vaccinations are my route. What upsets me are the unvaccinated clogging up the ER & ICU’s so that people with other medical issues cannot get service they may truly need. https://www.npr.org/2021/08/19/1029378744/hospital-beds-shortage-covid-coronavirus-states
dirtsurfer
One more thing: try traveling to a country with a history of diseases we in the Western world are not exposed to. When I went to Africa-way before Covid, the vaccine routine to be allowed in to the country was strict & rigorous. We were required to receive about 6 new vaccinations, carry our proof with us at all times, not allowed entry or exit into any country without proof of vaccinations and even denied some public transportation and venues if you could not produce your proof of vaccines. This was all pre-Covid in third world countries who have had to deal with diseases for a long time, now with Covid the rules are much tighter. This is just an interesting insight in to how for many years different countries with more pandemic experience have learned to deal with disease. We were very surprised at the seriousness of it all so when the Covid vaccines became available here they were to us routine, no big deal, made sense and if the vaccines grant me an additional one day on the beach then they work for me. To each his own but adhering to political dogma over science is something one might consider seeing a shrink for and makes me think the third world countries I visited have a much smarter and aware populace.
dirtsurfer
Hopefully you can open this link. https://www.wsj.com/articles/patients-drive-hours-to-ers-as-omicron-variant-overwhelms-rural-hospitals-11642251602
dirtsurfer
brokenwave said:

Sure the new's makes a big story out of most everything, Covid too..
But ask your Dr or nurse friends about it and you'll see they believe it's dangerous and to pay attention to it and it's trends.

Too bad everyone reacts differently, with the Omicron strain my wife's best friend now has Covid, with mild symptoms,
her boyfriend had a high fever and symptoms like the worse flu or Pneumonia he ever had.
They both had the booster vaccine.
Our gym buddies in their late 20's, both had high fevers and bad flu symptoms for almost 1 week.
With the Beta and Delta strain, I know 4 people who died from it.

A very good friend of mine is on a heart lung machine & in an induced coma because the Omicron variant seemed to attack his heart. Very sad and the outcome is not known. He has four daughters at home. He was vaxxed, no booster and no one else in the family vaxxed or unvaxxed got the virus. It is serious business and deathly for some, just a sniffle for others.
Old55
The booster is key.In a critical care area of a Boise hospital all but three patients were unvaccinated.The other three didnt have the booster.I am really sorry for your friend.Growning up without a dad sucks.
mondone
Lost 2 close friends to Covid. First one was pre-vaccine times at 52 y.o., female in not great but in good health. Died within 24 hours of symptoms in hospital. Second one was 7 months ago, non-vaxxed, 63 y.o. in GREAT health and in GREAT physical shape as an active workout enthusiast. Died after 1 week in hospital. I'm sorry, but I have not taken this virus lightly.
mexicoruss
mondone said:

Lost 2 close friends to Covid. First one was pre-vaccine times at 52 y.o., female in not great but in good health. Died within 24 hours of symptoms in hospital. Second one was 7 months ago, non-vaxxed, 63 y.o. in GREAT health and in GREAT physical shape as an active workout enthusiast. Died after 1 week in hospital. I'm sorry, but I have not taken this virus lightly.

Yes I agree but the jack asses persist.
GEEKMEISTER
Mass psychosis cracks me the hell up. Can you say bhaaa?
GEEKMEISTER
mexicoruss said:

Yes I agree but the jack asses persist.

Have you noticed no one is dying at home? The hospitals are killing your friends. You all need to wake up!
GEEKMEISTER
dirtsurfer said:

A very good friend of mine is on a heart lung machine & in an induced coma because the Omicron variant seemed to attack his heart. Very sad and the outcome is not known. He has four daughters at home. He was vaxxed, no booster and no one else in the family vaxxed or unvaxxed got the virus. It is serious business and deathly for some, just a sniffle for others.

The vaccine attacked his heart. Do your research.
Jungle Jim
Hey guys! Let's all go and jump off a cliff. Everyone else is doing it. What can possibly be wrong?

So says the head Lemming and the next one, and the next one,etc, etc, etc...........

JJ
ernesto
Excellent candidates for Band Camp
dirtsurfer
GEEKMEISTER said:

The vaccine attacked his heart. Do your research.

GEEKMEISTER said:

The vaccine attacked his heart. Do your research.

He was vaccinated 4 months ago. I think not but anything is possible. Do YOUR reasearch.
dirtsurfer
Jungle Jim said:

Hey guys! Let's all go and jump off a cliff. Everyone else is doing it. What can possibly be wrong?

So says the head Lemming and the next one, and the next one,etc, etc, etc...........

JJ

JJ: which cliff are you referring to? The anti-vax cliff or the pro vax cliff? The virus does not discriminate between the two nor does it care what anyone’s politics are or which lead lemming one might be following.
dirtsurfer
GEEKMEISTER said:

Have you noticed no one is dying at home? The hospitals are killing your friends. You all need to wake up!

Never argue with with a fool. Onlookers may not be able to tell the difference. M. Twain.