I trust it will be well-managed, but I hope the charm and history (pics) is still preserved. Just upgrade the bathrooms & kitchen. If the Friendly Dolphin can do it all these years, surely they can.
We started going to JJ's 30 years ago and spent time during many weekend 's there, we have ton's of great memories from there.
It was a great place to hang out but, as the years, passed it became tired and worn as other new places opened up.
Back in the late 80's-90's you would sleep on Sandy beach, find a bush for the restroom and JJ's was a perfect
compliment for that rustic style living. The routine was start at Manny's go to the Pink Cadillac, stop by Margaritaville and finish at JJ's
As the crowds became less over the years, Joe, one of the owners showed zero desire to do anything to upgrade JJ's,
I spoke to him about some of the different things he could do to attract more people there because the other bars around
offered a better experience than JJ's, he also dismissed most of his customer's suggestions because it
would cost $$ to do.
One guy I know offered to install an A/C system in JJ's for free to attract more people during the summer months,
He was told, No thank you.
Instead they closed JJ's 2 days a week from July 5th - Sept to save on worker's salaries.
They used to serve many different brands of beer, now only Tecate/DosXX brewing products, that lost them customers
including me, as I prefer Pacifico. I still went to JJ's, just not every trip and only for 1-2 beers when I did go.
The last time I ate there, the flies were so thick on the kitchen counters, cutting boards, peoples food etc. I left without touching my food.
So these days, I visit JJ's 1-2 times per year to say Hi to the remaining people I've known there for years. (I am in Cholla
over 100 days per year).
IMHO, JJ's needs some fresh ideas, A/C, new bathrooms and kitchen upgrades, A menu upgrade, daily special's and FLY control to help re-gain
it's popularity.
I would really like a reason to start enjoying a beer and some food at JJ's again, but it needs an upgrade.
I am not a fan of much of what Wrecked has evolved into, so hopefully they get the new JJ's right, leaving some of the rustic vibe.
And keep some of the people I have known for the past 20-30 years working there.
Off my Soap Box. :cool:
We've all seen bars/restaurants come and go. Whatever the new owner/manager does, it will have to be something that will attract people on a regular basis to be profitable. Younger crowds may be the answer, not sure. I have no idea what a younger crowd might want.
As Jeff Foxworthy has said. Men just want a beer and to see something necked. We're pretty simple.
Vegas, Yep men have simpler needs, but Don't forget about the women, I know more than a few who will not use JJ's bathroom.
My wife will drive 3/4 miles to our house to use our bathroom rather than use JJ's. LOL
We started going to JJ's 30 years ago and spent time during many weekend 's there, we have ton's of great memories from there.
It was a great place to hang out but, as the years, passed it became tired and worn as other new places opened up.
Back in the late 80's-90's you would sleep on Sandy beach, find a bush for the restroom and JJ's was a perfect
compliment for that rustic style living. The routine was start at Manny's go to the Pink Cadillac, stop by Margaritaville and finish at JJ's
As the crowds became less over the years, Joe, one of the owners showed zero desire to do anything to upgrade JJ's,
I spoke to him about some of the different things he could do to attract more people there because the other bars around
offered a better experience than JJ's, he also dismissed most of his customer's suggestions because it
would cost $$ to do.
One guy I know offered to install an A/C system in JJ's for free to attract more people during the summer months,
He was told, No thank you.
Instead they closed JJ's 2 days a week from July 5th - Sept to save on worker's salaries.
They used to serve many different brands of beer, now only Tecate/DosXX brewing products, that lost them customers
including me, as I prefer Pacifico. I still went to JJ's, just not every trip and only for 1-2 beers when I did go.
The last time I ate there, the flies were so thick on the kitchen counters, cutting boards, peoples food etc. I left without touching my food.
So these days, I visit JJ's 1-2 times per year to say Hi to the remaining people I've known there for years. (I am in Cholla
over 100 days per year).
IMHO, JJ's needs some fresh ideas, A/C, new bathrooms and kitchen upgrades, A menu upgrade, daily special's and FLY control to help re-gain
it's popularity.
I would really like a reason to start enjoying a beer and some food at JJ's again, but it needs an upgrade.
I am not a fan of much of what Wrecked has evolved into, so hopefully they get the new JJ's right, leaving some of the rustic vibe.
And keep some of the people I have known for the past 20-30 years working there.
Off my Soap Box. :cool:
Wow. Saying what everyone doesn't want to say out loud let me collect my thoughts.
Much like brokenwave been going to JJ's when the barroom was the only room, had an Arcadia style door going out back on to a 10 foot square concrete pad where some cheese ball band would play on the weekends. Back in those days pretty much the only people in there were the fisherman waiting for their fish to be cut up and spinning yarn about their day out at sea. Evenings were ripe in the room as showers weren't something anyone much cared about back then. Cigarette smoke, beer and tequila helped keep the smell in check.
With time slowly came the upgrades to what you see today, but still keeping some of the character of years past. Denver John & Joe did dabble in some promotion-marketing ideas, the bathtub races, sand golf tourney, holiday events as documented in the pictures on the walls but seemed to dwindle down to primarily the Memorial weekend fishing derby.
As for the new ownership, Randy has definitely made his bones navigating his way through Rocky Point commerce, but it'll be interesting to see what type of hurdles he'll be up against with the elders of Cholla Bay. Looking forward to see what he has in mind, and hope he keeps some of the past flavor of our local cantina.
The restaurant and bar scene in Puerto Peñasco is evolving very rapidly, as is housing. Encantame Towers is apparently selling out, and I’m seeing ads that Sonoran Stars is going to break ground on Sandy Beach. Islas del Mar is shaping up as a blow-out success. We have another 20 single family homes under construction, the 31 units of Eagle Village are nearing completion and half sold, Costa Divina is creeping towards completion, and 21 additional lots for homes sold out last week days after becoming available. There are 100s of additional lots in future phases. I wasn’t around 30 years ago when Cholla was THE place to be, but the concentrations of new residents are elsewhere, and JJs is a long drive from many of these places. It may be that fishermen and Cholla residents can continue to sustain some iteration of JJs in perpetuity, but no one is driving past Collins Cantina, Wrecked, Banditos, and numerous restaurants to go to the present state of JJs. I’ve even stopped going to Cholla Oyster House because I had a bad experience with service, and there are several places I like that are closer.
What is the solution? The new owner knows the business much better than me. The place needs to be cleaned up in a major way. It needs an actual menu. A few higher end cocktails. Cigarette smoke is a major turn off for a lot of people, but JJs is popular with smokers. And then it comes down to whether you want to bet on drawing people out there with amenities that won’t be cheap. The right business model might be to go cheap, power wash the place, build some decent bathrooms, upgrade the kitchen and menu a little, and serve the existing clientele with a better experience.
I saw this post late Monday night but didn't have time to write and wanted to see if there were other opinions first. Bob Oso and Brokenwave couldn't have said it better but I have a slightly different take. The first time I stepped foot inside JJ's was March 1998. It was also my first trip ever to Cholla Bay and RP. From what I remember I believe the building then was basically as it stands now. I know the bathrooms went through 1 or 2 variations over the years since so that may have been the only fundamental difference in the layout itself. Back patio was there with the tiered lava rock and cement tables. The only thing that wasn't there which was added a few years ago was that back pool table room. I was always more fascinated with the history preserving pictures laced on the walls. I was first introduced to Cholla Bay by the Blair family. Having been friends with their youngest son Eric since I was 8 and later going to middle school and high school together I already knew that Chuck Blair was a local fishing legend. Being a fisherman myself at that young age I found the pictures on the walls to be far more fascinating than the bar itself. I think the culture is why you go to JJ's. Why many still make one stop over a trip especially to show a N3WB one time if for nothing more. It's contextual. Like hey, want to blow your mind? This was THE SPOT in the 80's! Boom, person's brain explodes. I digress...
Back to the pictures on the wall. Like Bob said about the Bathtub races, One Club Open and many other legendary Cholla Bay COMMUNITY events, that's really what JJ's was, for Cholla Bay. A Club House. That's it. It's Cholla Bays club house.
Back to fishing. My take on what JJ's is and should be also has to do with it's affiliation to the Cholla Bay Sportsmen's Club. Like Bob said, many of them hung out there during Derby and other times of the year. The official fish scale is right below the stairs leading down from the back patio. It's where Villa pulls out the boats, Alex cleans the fish. The Radio Shack is right there where you file your Float Plan. I think what people don't know is that Cholla Bay is Rocky Point's other PORT. Villa is a port Captain. There's two ports in RP. In town and Cholla Bay. Many of the good reefs to fish are West and West NorthWest out of Cholla Bay. Back in the day a lot of fishermen were launching out of Cholla Bay and keeping their boats there in "cabins" that were basically 4 walls and a roof. Basically the Cholla Bay 60's version of a TOY HAULER. Use it to store, use it to sleep.
To me, JJ's, the Radio Shack, the boat ramp, the fish scale and the Cholla Bay Sportsmen's Club are all one. All synonymous with each other and what the culture of Cholla Bay has been for the better part of 70 years. I think you ABSOLUTELY have to preserve that in the new business model. The culture IS THE BUSINESS MODEL. I think for obvious reasons you have to modernize it a bit. Cleanliness is important if you're going to be a modern bar in RP. I see PARKING as being a major point of contention however. Space is finite in CB, especially around JJ's. I think one of the draws of this location is that people, CUSTOMERS of bars absolutely LOVE to have something to watch. And I'm not talking about TV's. People love watching shit. That's why BooBar just renovated again to incorporate a FRONT patio overlooking the street because people used to love to sit on those hi backs at the tables by the street and PEOPLE WATCH. What better place to sit on the patio at high tide, have a beer and PEOPLE WATCH all the shit happening at the port 30ft below the patio. Boats coming and going, pangas loading and unloading, LARGE FISH being weighed on the scales... Lot's to watch while you have a cold one and bullshit. It's why the Tekila Bar front patio is always PACKED during the day. Ocean and people watching.... People love to watch shit. Shit, the kids could even be out jet skiing around Cholla Bay or snorkeling or kayaking while the parents watch from afar on the newly renovated patio as they sip on cold brews, good cocktails and eat decent food while being provided with service and scenery... A great view of the Pinacates on clear days?????????? Shit, I'd drink to that!
The last observation. Over my time in Cholla Bay I've always noted how the Cholla Bay type resemble the PARROT HEADS of Jimmy Buffet world. I think it goes without saying that Cholla Bay has a cult like culture and appeal. Basically, the community motto is, It's 5 O Clock Somewhere... I'm seeing a Pirates Life at 40 type bar dedicated to the exploration of the Sea of Cortez keeping in line with the culture of Cholla Bay. I think that ensuring the neighbors patronize the establishment during the week and off demands days, weeks and months should be a priority because as Idillywild says, Who's driving all the way out there for that crap? You need the local community to patronize daily as they have been for years. So you must NOT stray away from the business model of CULTURE. Cholla Bay culture. Ceasar behind the bar should be a necessity. In fact Joe should have written that into the sale if he didn't already. Keep the pictures but redesign in a way that pays tribute to the Cholla Bay history and culture of fishing and having fun because, IT'S 5 OClock Somewhere!
I got off track multiple times while writing this because there's so much to say about Cholla Bay and JJ's. It's hard to organize 22 years of thought and opinion.
Joe, Nicely said.
I'm not a fisherman, but have seen lots of boats launched and many big fish being cleaned at the scales and have seen
most of the JJ's events and did the sailboat regatta once.
I wasn't into all the JJ's events but can appreciate how good it was for everyone involved.
And as you said people watching at it's best.
Last time I was in JJ's in early Nov. I noticed their booze inventory was low, there weren't any t-shirts for sale and went, Hummm?
I asked Cesar about it and he said he don't know why, I asked how Joe was doing? He said, Joe was not great, so this doesn't surprise me.
I was expecting a sale for a few years, but when Joe told me they wanted $4.5 million for JJ's and all their
property, I thought, Wow! good luck with that.
All of the JJ's employees will be given their cash payout when the deal closes as all businesses should do for their employees.
There is a place in Cholla down the street from JJ's that doesn't do this for their workers and only hires workers on
10 month contracts to avoid having to pay them at the end of their employment.
I heard one employee is taking their JJ's payout and going onto something else. Not Cesar from what I heard.
The word is JJ's employees are being offered jobs?? We'll see if it's still called JJ's??
We'll know shortly.
Joe, Nicely said.
I'm not a fisherman, but have seen lots of boats launched and many big fish being cleaned at the scales and have seen
most of the JJ's events and did the sailboat regatta once.
I wasn't into all the JJ's events but can appreciate how good it was for everyone involved.
And as you said people watching at it's best.
Last time I was in JJ's in early Nov. I noticed their booze inventory was low, there weren't any t-shirts for sale and went, Hummm?
I asked Cesar about it and he said he don't know why, I asked how Joe was doing? He said, Joe was not great, so this doesn't surprise me.
I was expecting a sale for a few years, but when Joe told me they wanted $4.5 million for JJ's and all their
property, I thought, Wow! good luck with that.
All of the JJ's employees will be given their cash payout when the deal closes as all businesses should do for their employees.
There is a place in Cholla down the street from JJ's that doesn't do this for their workers and only hires workers on
10 month contracts to avoid having to pay them at the end of their employment.
I heard one employee is taking their JJ's payout and going onto something else. Not Cesar from what I heard.
The word is JJ's employees are being offered jobs?? We'll see if it's still called JJ's??
We'll know shortly.
$4.5 mil?! Does he own the lot or lots across the street as well? I know he owns those little hotel rooms that we used to stay at for a while. I wonder what he's doing with those. I think John lives there as well when he's in town. Kind of a weird setup with a boat house below.
Yep, 4-5 years ago, Joe me $4.5 mil, but flexible and negotiable, LOL
JJ's property includes the old gas station, and 3 big lot's, the Santa Claus Bldg. and all the parking near JJ's.
There are some lots with rentals up (where you probably stayed ) on the hill to the south and a rental house near Pelican Pt.
There could be more I'm not aware of. They own a fair amount of land around JJ's.
I know he want to sell the whole package but now might be ready to break it up into pieces to lease/sell.
In March the last time I spoke with Joe, he told me, he hadn't taken a draw from JJ's in 6 months
because business was that slow. Also, Joe is at least 75 now.
My wife remembers her first time at JJs in 1979 or 1980. Her ex in-laws (who are still our friends) have owned a place in Choya forever. We still go maybe once a year for the memories but that’s about it. Randy has a definite history of success in Penasco and I am hoping he finds a way to upgrade JJs while still maintaining some of the old school feeling. I’m betting he will succeed.
Yep, 4-5 years ago, Joe me $4.5 mil, but flexible and negotiable, LOL
JJ's property includes the old gas station, and 3 big lot's, the Santa Claus Bldg. and all the parking near JJ's.
There are some lots with rentals up (where you probably stayed ) on the hill to the south and a rental house near Pelican Pt.
There could be more I'm not aware of. They own a fair amount of land around JJ's.
I know he want to sell the whole package but now might be ready to break it up into pieces to lease/sell.
In March the last time I spoke with Joe, he told me, he hadn't taken a draw from JJ's in 6 months
because business was that slow. Also, Joe is at least 75 now.
Aren't they both from New Mexico? AC business? The gas station wow! I forgot that thing even sits there. There's a vendor that sets up there nowadays. I forget his name but he always comes and talks to Claudia and I when we're breaking down the jet ski, now boat.
Any chance Pemex would lease that?! That would be epic to have gas in Cholla Bay. Driving the boat all the way back out to the windmill is a major pain but I guess if I was smart enough we'd fill her up on the way in lol... but regardless multiple day use you would have to go back out to WM at least once for gas.
My wife remembers her first time at JJs in 1979 or 1980. Her ex in-laws (who are still our friends) have owned a place in Choya forever. We still go maybe once a year for the memories but that’s about it. Randy has a definite history of success in Penasco and I am hoping he finds a way to upgrade JJs while still maintaining some of the old school feeling. I’m betting he will succeed.
I hope so too. I was bitching to my gf last night and she's like why do you even care?! All upset like. I'm like, I don't know... I guess I've always felt like Cholla Bay was my second home even though I've never been an owner. I felt like a regular. The best part is that over the last 3 or 4 years we don't spend more than 5 minutes a trip in there but I guess that's how it goes when you lose something. Makes you think you should have spent a little more time taking it in. Hopefully it gets renovated and improved while still keeping the old school Cholla Bay theme. I mean, all restaurants have themes... That's what differentiates them. Why not make it authentic but cool. Pay homage to the founding. None of us would be in CB if it wasn't for the Kenny's and Lucky Chuckys of the world and their parents I should say. The 50's in CB must have been SANDLOT epic!
A strategy that might work to draw in people who otherwise wouldn’t come to Cholla would be a fish house featuring local catches of the day straight off the boat. Since the new owner might be getting some adjacent properties there could be a larger footprint to work with. Keep some form of the original JJs with improvements to restrooms, kitchen and menu, and have an adjacent new structure serving fresh fish platters with a choice from 5 or 6 sides. With 6 Oz filets and two sides plus bread pricing could be in the $20 to $25 per plate range. Have an open kitchen and a view of the dock. Craft beers, a wine list featuring some Vale de Guadalupe wines in the $20 to $35 range, and decent bar with tequila, rum, rye whiskey, and gin cocktails. Wait staff would be key. Not at the level of Garufa, but well above Oyster House. I’ve been in several restaurants in Puerto Peñasco where I’ve had to show the bartender how to shake a gin martini and serve it with a twist. Once at Bryan’s Sports bar I watched in horror as the bartender got everything right up to the last step and instead of shaving a twist of lime peel into the glass, squeezed the juice of an entire lime in, creating a cloudy and unpalatable waste of $10.
So, leverage the location and history to create a destination fish house with casual dining ambiance and service and amenities meeting US dining expectations. Smoking and bottle beer would still be the rule at the next door renewed JJs with plates from next door available.
Man Idyllwild...sure have put a lot of thought into a place you don't live and a bar you don't own. I get it though, that's your interpretation of what would be an ideal dining experience. "Amenities meeting US dining expectations", is not why I've been going to Mexico all these years. And particularly why I've enjoyed our place in Cholla. Shit, if I wanted all what you posted in Cholla I'd save the gas and stay in the states.
The great thing about Cholla is the mix of people who stay there, there's people struggling to get by who
can't afford to live in the US and then there are millionaires and lot's of people in between.
Way too many Cholla locals with modest incomes and the richer are just as happy eating a few taco's with a beer
as people eating at Garufa's downing a $30 steak and $10 drinks.
The Oyster House was a great idea and much needed addition for Cholla (minus the 2nd story), but the owner screwed
that up by being way too cheap with help, food portions/quality, quality control and other items.
They had a pretty smooth running operation (mostly smooth) with the crew he had before Covid hit.
Edgar was the manager, Sergio from JJ's and a really good chef.
The Service was OK - Good, the same with the food. Then he tried to screw his contract workers from pre-Covid closing,
they staged protest's in front of the Oyster House in Oct 2020 and it went downhill pretty fast after that.
He did have to pay them off to stop protesting and go away.
We stopped going because the new/current manager is terrible, the service is terrible, the food barely OK and they won't
turn on the A/C, if it's under 85 inside. Then they moved the mini-split's upstairs to the sports bar,
because the kitchen heated up the down stairs dining room forcing him to turn them on when customers complained.
So no A/C unit's, no problema.
Man Idyllwild...sure have put a lot of thought into a place you don't live and a bar you don't own. I get it though, that's your interpretation of what would be an ideal dining experience. "Amenities meeting US dining expectations", is not why I've been going to Mexico all these years. And particularly why I've enjoyed our place in Cholla. Shit, if I wanted all what you posted in Cholla I'd save the gas and stay in the states.
Two minutes of my time, and not at all what I consider an ideal dining experience, and I kayak there whenever the tide is in. If they wanted people to drive in a casual dining fish house is the natural strategy, what Oyster House aspired to and failed at.
I really find it hard to believe any of you other than Mexico Joe ever really frequent JJ's dumpy beer joint. Just take a look at the vehicles parked in front on any week end. 99% off-roaders in for a cold brew and some yakity bullshit. We hit the joint every time we go down to swig a few TKT's after some clam digging or lure pitching.
We always get a few of their delicious fish tacos with melted queso blanco, a plate of drippy greasy free-jollies refritos and slather them up with some of their filthy fly infested condiments just to ensure that our immune system is up to snuff! Stiff necked wine and rye wisky??? Who da fuck do you think your kidding? You can even smoke some mota there and no one even bats an eye!
You can always count on cheap entertainment with idiots driving their high end 4x4's out on the mud flats at low tide, getting swamped in the "quick sand" above the doors and trecking out and leaving it to mother nature and the tides. Last summer whilst sitting on a bar stool with a two foot puddle of sweat around the stool legs we saw a solitary Vaquita playing with a group of local kids who didn't even notice the porpoise as anything unusual.
Plenty of good drunkin boob and leg action for those with the eye. Always some good shitty music and drunk old timers like me to add to the ambiance.
You can always get a little bolsa of the worst dog shit ganga on earth from the curio vendor at the old Pemex station accross the dirt road for a real steal.
It's always entertaining feeding the Hermann Gulls, English Sparrows and Great Tailed Grackles your left over "food" whilst swatting those dirty black moscas that just had a meal on some juicy fresh drunk's poop in the open trough banos.
Most of you probably don't know that those huge gnarly Tamarisk trees are hundreds of years old dating back to the times of the first Spanish explorers. They brought cuttings and planted them everywhere they found fresh water. The group of ancient Tamarisks farther up the beach sit on an artesian well with sweet fresh water that originates up in the Pinacates. The Indians especially the Papagos depended on that spring when they made their trips to gather sea shells for their fabulous bead work and salt needs.
There is a lot more of history to that place than most would ever know.
Guess I was wrong about the "No Sniveling" License plates. Found this article......and a little more about where they're from and how they got started in the business .
So does anyone recall what was in the building before it was JJ's?
I can remember when the gas station was open and mostly serviced boats.
JJ
It was called the "dirty bar" Joe told me the name of the lady that owned it, I forgot it of course. Story is the owners never went to the dump but they used an inside warehouse to dispose of their garbage, Joe told me it took weeks to clean it out after he bought it.
According to the article I posted it was called ........................ El Club de Pesca La Cholla. Probably had multiple different names before JJ's.
Just back from a beautiful long weekend in Cholla. Boy, the weather sure was nice. And if I'm not mistaken, I think I may have had a Russ sighting filling up at a gas station in Ajo Thursday mid morning.
All that aside, and what I wanted to post is that during our stay we got to spend time with locals that we've known for years and the subject about JJ's came up. Wanted to know if they heard anything in regards to what if any changes are going to be done. Pretty much the same as what you can see from the street. But what I found a little more interesting was that JJ's wasn't sold, it was leased to Randy, a five year lease. Now what happens after the lease terms out is anyone guess. I know not earth shattering news, and pretty sure if won't affect my drinking habits. But like I say, thought it was interesting....if true.
Just back from a beautiful long weekend in Cholla. Boy, the weather sure was nice. And if I'm not mistaken, I think I may have had a Russ sighting filling up at a gas station in Ajo Thursday mid morning.
All that aside, and what I wanted to post is that during our stay we got to spend time with locals that we've known for years and the subject about JJ's came up. Wanted to know if they heard anything in regards to what if any changes are going to be done. Pretty much the same as what you can see from the street. But what I found a little more interesting was that JJ's wasn't sold, it was leased to Randy, a five year lease. Now what happens after the lease terms out is anyone guess. I know not earth shattering news, and pretty sure if won't affect my drinking habits. But like I say, thought it was interesting....if true.
I also heard it was a lease, I was told 3-5 years, They are going to do some remodeling, I heard they are
installing A/C, re-doing the Kitchen and bathrooms. they are re-doing the front and side patios
with an arch? at the entrance. The old outside taco stand is being re-done into? Bar/Taco stand?
They are going to put more TV's.
I heard only Cesar and Berto will be working there when it re-opens. (they are tending bar at Wrecked currently)
The rest of the people at JJ's retired or weren't offered positions by the Wrecked people. But we'll see who is back in a few months.
I read late spring -early summer open from a person on the FB, JJ's Cantina 2022 site. Nothing new posted for awhile now.
They still have lot's to do.
I remember round 2013 sitting out on the side patio at JJs because we had the pups. It was after dark a few days either before or after Christmas. It was one of our first times in PP so we didn’t know much bout anything but here comes a whole convoy of Christmas light lit up vehicles! All sorts of stuff from cushman golf carts to a big old chevy suburban that if I remember had the roof cutoff and Urban Taxi painted on it. It was absolutely awesome and since then JJs is always on the list to visit.
I remember round 2013 sitting out on the side patio at JJs because we had the pups. It was after dark a few days either before or after Christmas. It was one of our first times in PP so we didn’t know much bout anything but here comes a whole convoy of Christmas light lit up vehicles! All sorts of stuff from cushman golf carts to a big old chevy suburban that if I remember had the roof cutoff and Urban Taxi painted on it. It was absolutely awesome and since then JJs is always on the list to visit.
I've seen the X-Mas night parade a few times now, boy some of those rigs have hours of work in getting them ready.
I remember our first food experience there. It was about 10-12 years ago we were checking out the beach behind the place and the wife had to use a restroom. I told her to go up there and order us some food and drinks to go and use the head.
We barely made it back to the hotel with food poisoning. That was our first and last time we ever went there. I hope the new owner turns that place into something good.
The wife and I loved the burgers and fries at JJ's, it was the one bar we both agreed was our favorite. Randy (Wrecked) will do a nice job at JJs, I am looking forward to what he has planned.
The food was hit or miss, sometimes just what you needed and cooked OK and then there were the times
we wished we went elsewhere.
In the last 15 years I have never eaten there in late May-mid Oct, But 5-15 years before that I just wanted
tacos and beer even in July, so it didn't matter.
Basic food hygiene 101 from kindergarden back in the 50's pre FUSA.........
If it's covered with filthy black shit eating flies that just emerged from pupas that fed on a dead carcass or a pile of shit their whole lives they probably have every disease that the shitter or carcass had when he, she or it had when dropping dead or dumping the load.
And everybody knows?? That winged adult flies soften up their newly located booty with up-chucked vomit from their last meal.
Wanna use uncovered days old condiments from any turd world shit hole? You are only asking for a trip to the bomb sight or the nearest ER if you can find one.
We have eaten the delicious fish tacos from JJ's for years and never had an issue. Of course we would never consider using their condiment tray for good reason.
Kinda new in Mirador, just behind the old Best Western Playa Inn.
Joe, of Black Dog days has opened this BBQ Rib House. Lots of good eats, rib racks, crinkle cut fries, home cooked beenziz, tater salad, cole slaw and a selection of home made Merican style pies by the slice.
We got a full rack of pig ribs with all of the fixings for $38.00 to take out and couldn't eat half of it!
The Mirador locals have already homed in on it. A perfect stop after a long day on the dunes.
We went out to the JJs site yesterday, it is going to be nice! New bathrooms, opened up back deck and the new owner has some good plans on food service and all. Plus he said hat Cesar is going to be in charge of he bar like he has been for over a decade. We got a good feeling after talking with him
JJ’s was the Club de Pesca when I first had a beer there. We ran JJ’s off-road races twice a year for many years and I will always have fond memories of the great times at that spot.
I met Randy ( I do not know him well) just before he opened the Wrecked. We were taking pictures of the church confessional inside. Before that we called the Wrecked "That Blue Bar" cause it was painted a bright blue and wasn't open that much. So in keeping with the elements of change, I'm gonna guess that the name will change. With that "hardcore, concrete " evidence of the renaming I'm submitting my name(s) for the new bar here. Here's my first.
If people aren't coming back to an establishment, I doubt the name of the place is the reason.
What I'm curious about is if they're going to want this place to pop like The Wrecked, where is everyone going to park. I know they have that lot across the street next to the gas station, and Villa goes nuts trying to keep this boat trailer space's open. But if their expecting patronage to be similar to what it is at The Wrecked...Yikes.
If people aren't coming back to an establishment, I doubt the name of the place is the reason.
What I'm curious about is if they're going to want this place to pop like The Wrecked, where is everyone going to park. I know they have that lot across the street next to the gas station, and Villa goes nuts trying to keep this boat trailer space's open. But if their expecting patronage to be similar to what it is at The Wrecked...Yikes.
They have a plan that they are very quiet about, I wouldn't bet against Randy though.
If people aren't coming back to an establishment, I doubt the name of the place is the reason.
What I'm curious about is if they're going to want this place to pop like The Wrecked, where is everyone going to park. I know they have that lot across the street next to the gas station, and Villa goes nuts trying to keep this boat trailer space's open. But if their expecting patronage to be similar to what it is at The Wrecked...Yikes.
I suspect parking will be where the pangas stage their trailers during the day outside of the police station at the entry to CB and then the bar will have one or two shuttles (golf carts or the like) shuttling customers back and forth.
