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Started by jerry · Feb 23, 2018 · 12 replies
jerry
https://jorgeramos.com/pena-nieto-la-aritmetica-del-horror/#mobile-site-navigation
audsley
Must translate
jerry
audsley said:
Must translate

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Mexico , Politics , Society
PEÑA NIETO: THE ARITHMETIC OF HORROR
imageJORGE RAMOSFebruary 5, 2018 12:01 a.m. 1596
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This is the sum of the deaths in Mexico during the administration of Enrique Peña Nieto. It is the arithmetic of horror. It is also the reflection of one of the most inept and incompetent presidents the country has had. And the mental game about what would have happened with another person in the presidency.


Since Peña Nieto came to power on December 1, 2012 until December 31, 2017, 98,120 Mexicans have been murdered. It is what is called "intentional homicides" , that is, committed with the intention of killing or causing harm.

The candidate who in 2012 promised to face violence in a "prompt and effective way" lied to us all. Or promised without knowing how to comply. The result? A real tragedy for the country. This is the sum of your incompetence:

-2012- 1,699 dead

-2013- 18,106 dead

-2014 - 15,520 dead

-2015- 16,909 dead

-2016- 20,547 dead

-2017- 25,339 dead

TOTAL 98,120 DEAD
Peña Nieto will have the bloodiest presidency in the modern history of Mexico. Within three months, more or less, his government will surpass the 104,089 deaths of the presidency of the PAN, Felipe Calderón. Peña Nieto and Calderón will be remembered as the presidents of the massacres, the graves and the futile war against drugs. But above all they will be remembered for their enormous failure. They failed in the most important thing: to take care of the life of the Mexicans.

These figures are only comparable to countries at war. But the problem with the figures is that they are official; they are provided by the Ministry of the Interior itself ( https://bit.ly/1KTkyif ). And I do not trust the figures-or anything-that a government that is so incompetent and corrupt offers. So, surely, the actual death toll is higher.

What Mexican family has not suffered this violence in the flesh?

I am amazed at the enormous capacity of endurance of the Mexicans. Peña Nieto has been a nefarious president. On a personal level, it's incredible that his wife bought a seven-million-dollar house from a government contractor - a clear conflict of interest - and that he would not have faced impeachment. Where is the outrage and where is the real political opposition? The justice system did not work. But the hope is that the next president dares to investigate the case and prosecute.

In addition to the issue of corruption, Peña Nieto demonstrated an enormous ignorance on the most important issue for the country. He never knew what to do with violence. And that is very serious. Peña Nieto was warned. He saw the disaster during the Calderón administration and, despite everything, he made the same mistakes as his predecessor.

Peña Nieto was not prepared to be president and, worst of all, he did not learn in the position either. While murdering thousands of Mexicans, the president naively believed that Mexico had an image problem.

His questionable arrival at the presidency and lack of leadership has had a huge cost in human lives. We will always ask ourselves if more Mexicans would be alive with another president in Los Pinos. Would the 43 Ayotzinapa students be with us? Or the victims of the massacres in Nochixtlán and Tlatlaya?

Those who put Peña Nieto in power are accomplices in this catastrophe. And so are those who worked with him and were silent about the killings, disappearances and femicides. I do not remember even one of his secretaries or collaborators who raised his hand during this sexennium and said: this is not right. With what face do they now ask for votes when they are co-responsible for the period of greatest violence in our lives? They do not deserve a second chance. Cowardice must have no reward.

I refuse to believe that Mexicans want more of the same.

The central theme in the upcoming presidential elections in Mexico (the first of July) will be how to stop this violence. There has to be a vigorous debate about its causes and about what to do to dramatically and quickly lower the death toll.

For all the above, it is very important to go out and vote. It is not simply about choosing a candidate or a political party. In Mexico the matter is much more serious. It's about not being killed.

By Jorge Ramos Avalos.
(Feb 5, 2018)
dirtsurfer
I see a common occurrence in this article that we all should avoid: criticism without suggestion. It is one thing to accuse or criticize the government or your neighbor, the police.....but one should always at least opioniate even their opinion on what THEY would do better or how to rectify the situation. All criticism is less valuable without substantive suggestions for betterment or progress.
jerry
Between the lines he is giving a solution. "Those who put Peña Nieto in power are accomplices in this catastrophe. And so are those who worked with him and were silent about the killings, disappearances and femicides. I do not remember even one of his secretaries or collaborators who raised his hand during this sexennium and said: this is not right. With what face do they now ask for votes when they are co-responsible for the period of greatest violence in our lives? They do not deserve a second chance. Cowardice must have no reward."

He is saying EPN and his party need to be swept out.
dirtsurfer
jerry said:
Between the lines he is giving a solution. "Those who put Peña Nieto in power are accomplices in this catastrophe. And so are those who worked with him and were silent about the killings, disappearances and femicides. I do not remember even one of his secretaries or collaborators who raised his hand during this sexennium and said: this is not right. With what face do they now ask for votes when they are co-responsible for the period of greatest violence in our lives? They do not deserve a second chance. Cowardice must have no reward."

He is saying EPN and his party need to be swept out.

I wish my best for Mexico.
Stuart
If they had just voted for El Chapo, none of this would have happened.

Kidding, obviously. But I did read an interesting article this weekend talking about how marijuana smuggling is down and the crops are being switched to opium poppies because much of the west legalized pot and killed the cartels major money making machine. It also went into how the void created with El Chapo gone has created much more ruthless cartel violence. Acapulco and Ixtapa are pretty much off any tourist lists right now. And election or no election, there really is no end in sight.
jerry
Stuart said:
If they had just voted for El Chapo, none of this would have happened.

Kidding, obviously. But I did read an interesting article this weekend talking about how marijuana smuggling is down and the crops are being switched to opium poppies because much of the west legalized pot and killed the cartels major money making machine. It also went into how the void created with El Chapo gone has created much more ruthless cartel violence. Acapulco and Ixtapa are pretty much off any tourist lists right now. And election or no election, there really is no end in sight.
jerry
We on the other hand we're blessed when Raphael was released from prison...He has forged the Sonora truce....sort of holding too
Stuart
jerry said:
We on the other hand we're blessed when Raphael was released from prison...He has forged the Sonora truce....sort of holding too


What people (gringos) fail to realize is the El Chapos and Raphaels of Mexico hold more power than anyone elected to office.

Mexican elections are but an illusion.
LAS CONCHAS UNDERGROUND
jerry said:
image
Mexico , Politics , Society
PEÑA NIETO: THE ARITHMETIC OF HORROR
imageJORGE RAMOSFebruary 5, 2018 12:01 a.m. 1596
FacebookTwitter

This is the sum of the deaths in Mexico during the administration of Enrique Peña Nieto. It is the arithmetic of horror. It is also the reflection of one of the most inept and incompetent presidents the country has had. And the mental game about what would have happened with another person in the presidency.


Since Peña Nieto came to power on December 1, 2012 until December 31, 2017, 98,120 Mexicans have been murdered. It is what is called "intentional homicides" , that is, committed with the intention of killing or causing harm.

The candidate who in 2012 promised to face violence in a "prompt and effective way" lied to us all. Or promised without knowing how to comply. The result? A real tragedy for the country. This is the sum of your incompetence:

-2012- 1,699 dead

-2013- 18,106 dead

-2014 - 15,520 dead

-2015- 16,909 dead

-2016- 20,547 dead

-2017- 25,339 dead

TOTAL 98,120 DEAD
Peña Nieto will have the bloodiest presidency in the modern history of Mexico. Within three months, more or less, his government will surpass the 104,089 deaths of the presidency of the PAN, Felipe Calderón. Peña Nieto and Calderón will be remembered as the presidents of the massacres, the graves and the futile war against drugs. But above all they will be remembered for their enormous failure. They failed in the most important thing: to take care of the life of the Mexicans.

These figures are only comparable to countries at war. But the problem with the figures is that they are official; they are provided by the Ministry of the Interior itself ( https://bit.ly/1KTkyif ). And I do not trust the figures-or anything-that a government that is so incompetent and corrupt offers. So, surely, the actual death toll is higher.

What Mexican family has not suffered this violence in the flesh?

I am amazed at the enormous capacity of endurance of the Mexicans. Peña Nieto has been a nefarious president. On a personal level, it's incredible that his wife bought a seven-million-dollar house from a government contractor - a clear conflict of interest - and that he would not have faced impeachment. Where is the outrage and where is the real political opposition? The justice system did not work. But the hope is that the next president dares to investigate the case and prosecute.

In addition to the issue of corruption, Peña Nieto demonstrated an enormous ignorance on the most important issue for the country. He never knew what to do with violence. And that is very serious. Peña Nieto was warned. He saw the disaster during the Calderón administration and, despite everything, he made the same mistakes as his predecessor.

Peña Nieto was not prepared to be president and, worst of all, he did not learn in the position either. While murdering thousands of Mexicans, the president naively believed that Mexico had an image problem.

His questionable arrival at the presidency and lack of leadership has had a huge cost in human lives. We will always ask ourselves if more Mexicans would be alive with another president in Los Pinos. Would the 43 Ayotzinapa students be with us? Or the victims of the massacres in Nochixtlán and Tlatlaya?

Those who put Peña Nieto in power are accomplices in this catastrophe. And so are those who worked with him and were silent about the killings, disappearances and femicides. I do not remember even one of his secretaries or collaborators who raised his hand during this sexennium and said: this is not right. With what face do they now ask for votes when they are co-responsible for the period of greatest violence in our lives? They do not deserve a second chance. Cowardice must have no reward.

I refuse to believe that Mexicans want more of the same.

The central theme in the upcoming presidential elections in Mexico (the first of July) will be how to stop this violence. There has to be a vigorous debate about its causes and about what to do to dramatically and quickly lower the death toll.

For all the above, it is very important to go out and vote. It is not simply about choosing a candidate or a political party. In Mexico the matter is much more serious. It's about not being killed.

By Jorge Ramos Avalos.
(Feb 5, 2018)
LAS CONCHAS UNDERGROUND
Jorge is a leftest flame thrower. He may be correct here but I wouldn’t believe anything he talks about. He always uses his own facts and disregards the facts he doesn’t like. Beware!
Elon
Angst behavior is counter productive... especially against a local legal authority in a country you do not have US Protection and Citizenship in, SERIOUSLY??? Please stop making yourself and others a target! There are ways to better this situation. Could mean a different way of living and that is upsetting. LC Underground's life or home or dreams of past comforts and routines have been invaded and are at risk. We get that change in life horror! Please, LC, calmarse and talk this out with sentient friends and followers.