Esmeralda Resort Ribbon Cutting

Hasn't anyone noticed this press release for the Esmeralda? Or did I just miss it? This is a good sign, right?

Ribbon Cutting Signals the Newest Luxury Vacation Destination in Puerto Peñasco, Mexico

PHOENIX, Nov. 3, 2017 /PRNewswire/ -- Under new ownership! Esmeralda Luxury Resort recently celebrated its official ribbon cutting ceremony in Puerto Peñasco, Sonora, Mexico.

The ceremony was to commemorate the resumption of the construction, on the seven-tower complex that will contain 281 luxury condominiums, 15 penthouses, 4 pools, and a fine dining restaurant along with a gym, spa and pool bar once completed.


Esmeralda Luxury Resort President Daniel Butterfield (left), Vice President Nick Najera (right) and Puerto Peñasco Mayor Kiko Munro (center) celebrate the resumption of construction on the resort with an official Ribbon Cutting Ceremony
An impressive guestlist included worldwide businessmen, investors, media, and of course the family of Esmeralda Luxury Resort joined Daniel Butterfield-President and Nick Nájera-Vice-President for the event, alongside Puerto Peñasco's Mayor Kiko Munro, signaling a strong level of support from local government for the project.

Mr. Butterfield and Mr. Najera both have a recognized record of accomplishment in the real estate development and hospitality industries. Along with their expertise and a comprehensive marketing strategy they intend on positioning Esmeralda Resort throughout Mexico, as well as on the international scene.

On the project itself, Mr. Butterfield stated; "Our main goal was to not just provide a uniquely different luxury vacation destination, but make a positive contribution to the surrounding communities and their economies. The revitalization of the project has created many new job opportunities, and has resulted in lasting business ties with local officials."

About Daniel Butterfield:

Daniel has been in the Real Estate Industry for the last two decades and primarily in the Phoenix area for the last decade. He began his career working for NASA at the Johnson Space Center as an Engineer (his chosen field of study), then consulting for the prestigious Anderson Consulting (now Accenture) firm working with Fortune 500 Companies where his focus was on software integration and design.

Daniel also has a unique real estate business in Phoenix, Arizona offering a full spectrum of services for everything you will need to make your real estate investment happen, including, renovation, deed of trust financing, and more.

To learn more about Esmeralda Luxury Resort visit http://www.esmeraldaluxuryresort.com.

Esmeralda Luxury Resort
info@.esmeraldaluxuryresort.com
+52.638.383.4813

Media contact:
Mark Green
183571@email4pr.com
702.418.3702

SOURCE Esmeralda Luxury Resort

Oh yeah, it's been discussed on here lately. Just search the forum for "Butterfield" and hang onto your hat!!

It's all part of the con.

Queen of Kings said:

It's all part of the con.

Yuppers.

"The ceremony was to commemorate the resumption of the construction, on the seven-tower complex that will contain 281 luxury condominiums, 15 penthouses, 4 pools, and a fine dining restaurant along with a gym, spa and pool bar once completed."

Anybody see those two key words right there?? He's been touting the cruise ship port as the vehicle that is going to make this all happen. Anybody seen a cruise ship? Anybody? Buehler.......Buehler..... Buehler.....

Butterboy and his Iranian pal are some greezy lookin kreeps. Gotta get me some zoot-suits like they got, good for clam diggin.

Kant wait to get em a wheelbarrow load of cash for my investment.

The second windmill is ready for the propeller installation and some fresh "investors" as they are the prototypes for the vast planned eco-friendly wind farms to be built south of Santo Tomas. Gotta feelin the Osprey, Raven and Zopilote population down there will take quite a dive.

JJ

I was shocked when several years ago in San Juanico I rounded a corner on my dirt bike and ran up to a large windmill farm. San Jaunico at that time had only very long and unpaved roads as access. The surfers love this spot and call it Scorpion Bay.

"
Mr. Butterfield and Mr. Najera both have a recognized record of accomplishment in the real estatedevelopment and hospitality industries.". Oh boy...not sure about Najera but Butterball had some history

jerry said:

"
Mr. Butterfield and Mr. Najera both have a recognized record of accomplishment in the real estatedevelopment and hospitality industries.". Oh boy...not sure about Najera but Butterball had some history

That got him kicked out of real estate once already. Sorry, leopards do NOT change their spots.

That is all, carry on.

From ribbon cutting Nov. 2017 to unknown status in just 5 months.... it is just so sad on so many levels.

Grammanan said:

From ribbon cutting Nov. 2017 to unknown status in just 5 months.... it is just so sad on so many levels.

to bad the facebook pages won't post this stuff..

From the google search reviews of his AZ company "You know the company is trash when employees have to rate it a 5 in order to get above the lower ratings, just ask Onosai Saolele, he's a employee but is commenting like

jerry said:

to bad the facebook pages won't post this stuff..

Doesn't fit their agenda. Seems anything negative posted on Facebook about our favorite place south of the border gets either A) quickly censored and deleted, or B) you become the object of ridicule and all the defenders accuse you of being a hater and spreading fake news. You know as well as I do that NOTHING BAD ever happens in Rocky Point, Jerry. The Tourism board would never allow that to happen.

By the way, I threw in the towel and deleted my Facebook account last September. Done with it all. And now that some of the data they collect on you (and release to others) is coming to light, I'm glad I did. People are leaving Facebook at a pretty high rate. Here's what they know, and this doesn't include every IP address you've ever used to login and when/where you did.

If you’re curious about all the data points Facebook is using to target ads to you, here’s the full list:

1. Location
   
   
2. Age
   
   
3. Generation
   
   
4. Gender
   
   
5. Language
   
   
6. Education level
   
   
7. Field of study
   
   
8. School
   
   
9. Ethnic affinity
   
   
10. Income and net worth
    
    
11. Home ownership and type
    
    
12. Home value
    
    
13. Property size
    
    
14. Square footage of home
    
    
15. Year home was built
    
    
16. Household composition
    
    
17. Users who have an anniversary within 30 days
    
    
18. Users who are away from family or hometown
    
    
19. Users who are friends with someone who has an anniversary, is newly married or engaged, recently moved, or has an upcoming birthday
    
    
20. Users in long-distance relationships
    
    
21. Users in new relationships
    
    
22. Users who have new jobs
    
    
23. Users who are newly engaged
    
    
24. Users who are newly married
    
    
25. Users who have recently moved
    
    
26. Users who have birthdays soon
    
    
27. Parents
    
    
28. Expectant parents
    
    
29. Mothers, divided by “type” (soccer, trendy, etc.)
    
    
30. Users who are likely to engage in politics
    
31. Conservatives and liberals
    
    
32. Relationship status
    
    
33. Employer
    
    
34. Industry
    
    
35. Job title
    
    
36. Office type
    
    
37. Interests
    
    
38. Users who own motorcycles
    
    
39. Users who plan to buy a car (and what kind/brand of car, and how soon)
    
    
40. Users who bought auto parts or accessories recently
    
    
41. Users who are likely to need auto parts or services
    
    
42. Style and brand of car you drive
    
    
43. Year car was bought
    
    
44. Age of car
    
    
45. How much money user is likely to spend on next car
    
    
46. Where user is likely to buy next car
    
    
47. How many employees your company has
    
    
48. Users who own small businesses
    
    
49. Users who work in management or are executives
    
    
50. Users who have donated to charity (divided by type)
    
    
51. Operating system
    
    
52. Users who play canvas games
    
    
53. Users who own a gaming console
    
    
54. Users who have created a Facebook event
    
    
55. Users who have used Facebook Payments
    
    
56. Users who have spent more than average on Facebook Payments
    
    
57. Users who administer a Facebook page
    
    
58. Users who have recently uploaded photos to Facebook
    
    
59. Internet browser
    
    
60. Email service
    
    
61. Early/late adopters of technology
    
    
62. Expats (divided by what country they are from originally)
    
    
63. Users who belong to a credit union, national bank or regional bank
    
    
64. Users who investor (divided by investment type)
    
    
65. Number of credit lines
    
    
66. Users who are active credit card users
    
    
67. Credit card type
    
    
68. Users who have a debit card
    
    
69. Users who carry a balance on their credit card
    
    
70. Users who listen to the radio
    
    
71. Preference in TV shows
    
    
72. Users who use a mobile device (divided by what brand they use)
    
    
73. Internet connection type
    
    
74. Users who recently acquired a smartphone or tablet
    
    
75. Users who access the Internet through a smartphone or tablet
    
    
76. Users who use coupons
    
    
77. Types of clothing user’s household buys
    
    
78. Time of year user’s household shops most
    
    
79. Users who are “heavy” buyers of beer, wine or spirits
    
    
80. Users who buy groceries (and what kinds)
    
    
81. Users who buy beauty products
    
    
82. Users who buy allergy medications, cough/cold medications, pain relief products, and over-the-counter meds
    
    
83. Users who spend money on household products
    
    
84. Users who spend money on products for kids or pets, and what kinds of pets
    
    
85. Users whose household makes more purchases than is average
    
    
86. Users who tend to shop online (or off)
    
    
87. Types of restaurants user eats at
    
    
88. Kinds of stores user shops at
    
    
89. Users who are “receptive” to offers from companies offering online auto insurance, higher education or mortgages, and prepaid debit cards/satellite TV
    
    
90. Length of time user has lived in house
    
    
91. Users who are likely to move soon
    
    
92. Users who are interested in the Olympics, fall football, cricket or Ramadan
    
    
93. Users who travel frequently, for work or pleasure
    
    
94. Users who commute to work
    
    
95. Types of vacations user tends to go on
    
    
96. Users who recently returned from a trip
    
    
97. Users who recently used a travel app
    
    
98. Users who participate in a timeshare
    

Stuart said:

Doesn't fit their agenda. Seems anything negative posted on Facebook about our favorite place south of the border gets either A) quickly censored and deleted, or B) you become the object of ridicule and all the defenders accuse you of being a hater and spreading fake news. You know as well as I do that NOTHING BAD ever happens in Rocky Point, Jerry. The Tourism board would never allow that to happen.

By the way, I threw in the towel and deleted my Facebook account last September. Done with it all. And now that some of the data they collect on you (and release to others) is coming to light, I'm glad I did. People are leaving Facebook at a pretty high rate. Here's what they know, and this doesn't include every IP address you've ever used to login and when/where you did.

If you’re curious about all the data points Facebook is using to target ads to you, here’s the full list:

1. Location
   
   
2. Age
   
   
3. Generation
   
   
4. Gender
   
   
5. Language
   
   
6. Education level
   
   
7. Field of study
   
   
8. School
   
   
9. Ethnic affinity
   
   
10. Income and net worth
    
    
11. Home ownership and type
    
    
12. Home value
    
    
13. Property size
    
    
14. Square footage of home
    
    
15. Year home was built
    
    
16. Household composition
    
    
17. Users who have an anniversary within 30 days
    
    
18. Users who are away from family or hometown
    
    
19. Users who are friends with someone who has an anniversary, is newly married or engaged, recently moved, or has an upcoming birthday
    
    
20. Users in long-distance relationships
    
    
21. Users in new relationships
    
    
22. Users who have new jobs
    
    
23. Users who are newly engaged
    
    
24. Users who are newly married
    
    
25. Users who have recently moved
    
    
26. Users who have birthdays soon
    
    
27. Parents
    
    
28. Expectant parents
    
    
29. Mothers, divided by “type” (soccer, trendy, etc.)
    
    
30. Users who are likely to engage in politics
    
31. Conservatives and liberals
    
    
32. Relationship status
    
    
33. Employer
    
    
34. Industry
    
    
35. Job title
    
    
36. Office type
    
    
37. Interests
    
    
38. Users who own motorcycles
    
    
39. Users who plan to buy a car (and what kind/brand of car, and how soon)
    
    
40. Users who bought auto parts or accessories recently
    
    
41. Users who are likely to need auto parts or services
    
    
42. Style and brand of car you drive
    
    
43. Year car was bought
    
    
44. Age of car
    
    
45. How much money user is likely to spend on next car
    
    
46. Where user is likely to buy next car
    
    
47. How many employees your company has
    
    
48. Users who own small businesses
    
    
49. Users who work in management or are executives
    
    
50. Users who have donated to charity (divided by type)
    
    
51. Operating system
    
    
52. Users who play canvas games
    
    
53. Users who own a gaming console
    
    
54. Users who have created a Facebook event
    
    
55. Users who have used Facebook Payments
    
    
56. Users who have spent more than average on Facebook Payments
    
    
57. Users who administer a Facebook page
    
    
58. Users who have recently uploaded photos to Facebook
    
    
59. Internet browser
    
    
60. Email service
    
    
61. Early/late adopters of technology
    
    
62. Expats (divided by what country they are from originally)
    
    
63. Users who belong to a credit union, national bank or regional bank
    
    
64. Users who investor (divided by investment type)
    
    
65. Number of credit lines
    
    
66. Users who are active credit card users
    
    
67. Credit card type
    
    
68. Users who have a debit card
    
    
69. Users who carry a balance on their credit card
    
    
70. Users who listen to the radio
    
    
71. Preference in TV shows
    
    
72. Users who use a mobile device (divided by what brand they use)
    
    
73. Internet connection type
    
    
74. Users who recently acquired a smartphone or tablet
    
    
75. Users who access the Internet through a smartphone or tablet
    
    
76. Users who use coupons
    
    
77. Types of clothing user’s household buys
    
    
78. Time of year user’s household shops most
    
    
79. Users who are “heavy” buyers of beer, wine or spirits
    
    
80. Users who buy groceries (and what kinds)
    
    
81. Users who buy beauty products
    
    
82. Users who buy allergy medications, cough/cold medications, pain relief products, and over-the-counter meds
    
    
83. Users who spend money on household products
    
    
84. Users who spend money on products for kids or pets, and what kinds of pets
    
    
85. Users whose household makes more purchases than is average
    
    
86. Users who tend to shop online (or off)
    
    
87. Types of restaurants user eats at
    
    
88. Kinds of stores user shops at
    
    
89. Users who are “receptive” to offers from companies offering online auto insurance, higher education or mortgages, and prepaid debit cards/satellite TV
    
    
90. Length of time user has lived in house
    
    
91. Users who are likely to move soon
    
    
92. Users who are interested in the Olympics, fall football, cricket or Ramadan
    
    
93. Users who travel frequently, for work or pleasure
    
    
94. Users who commute to work
    
    
95. Types of vacations user tends to go on
    
    
96. Users who recently returned from a trip
    
    
97. Users who recently used a travel app
    
    
98. Users who participate in a timeshare
    

Shit!!!!

jerry said:

Shit!!!!

Between Facebook and Google, Big Brother is always watching you, Jerry. Hello, 1984.

Exactly how do they collect this info? I assume only from entries made on either, searches, comments, like given, based on agreement with the TOS ?? Clearly most of the information is useful to target ads which I guess is the sole income to the site?? Not too troublesome as it should cut the inappropriate clutter. Maybe tat is why I never see ads for sanitary napkins??

Years back before the internet my mailbox overflowed with useless advertising. I asked the local postmaster to not put mass mailings in my box but they could not do that. I see a lot of unsolicited stuff as I brose but have trained m self to ignore it all. I am not a facebook fan and still do not get the cry 'Like Me on Facebook" . What benefit is that other than bragging rights? I see the little Like sig at the bottom of this page. What's the deal there??

I am fascinated by some of the Advertorial stuff offered. "I'll tell you about that in a Minute' and on and on till it gets to the sales pitch after 5 or 6 minutes. "One simple thing to know about how to prevent heart attacks " and five minutes of "I'll tell you about that in a minute". I guess it's a way to collect payments for clicks or exposures on advertiser's sites ??

Roberto said:

Exactly how do they collect this info?

You got part of it -- by where you go, where you click, what you like, what groups you follow or belong to, your friends (and analyzing the same about them), and your actual posts on Facebook and instant messaging, and other sites you've used Facebook to log into... it's a long list, Roberto. This article appeared in Sunday's Arizona Republic. So why you may feel "who cares" about targeted advertising, this gets a lot deeper and personal.

Jefferson Graham - USA TODAY - LOS ANGELES – Want to know what Facebook has on you? Download the data. I did, and what it knows about me is pretty scary.
Like many, I have downloaded the data that Facebook compiled about me over the years, and frankly, it was spooky. I love the social network for showing off my latest photos, staying in contact with old friends and catching up on the latest news. But to get those features, Facebook kept:

❚ Location info of all my contacts. This happened when I joined and Facebook asked if I wanted to connect with other friends by importing my contacts from my computer, which happened to have their phone numbers and some addresses. Facebook has lived with this info since I joined in 2007.

❚ Any restaurant or airport where I’ve “checked in.”

❚ The IP address of everywhere I’ve ever logged into Facebook.

❚ My (estimated by Facebook) political and religious views, despite my posts that focus on three areas: photography, work (the latest articles, podcasts and videos) and, occasionally, family.

❚ All my searches on Facebook over the years, names of my followers and facial recognition of me and my friends.

Whoa!

After the Cambridge Analytica scandal, in which an app developer was able to sell personal data to a research firm that said it helped Donald Trump win the 2016 presidential election, Facebook apologized. It says it has tightened its policies on what data can end up with app developers since that data leak. The company also pledges to be more transparent about data it collects. Meanwhile, it will roll back some of the ad-targeting tools that have long been available to data brokers.

Want to know what Facebook has on you? Download the data. Go to the Settings section of Facebook (the arrow next to the question mark, top right) and click on “download my data” at the bottom of the page called “General Account Settings.” Then you’ll make your request and await Facebook’s compilation of your data, delivered via email link. If you’ve been on Facebook for many years, expect the link to take a while.

Once the file arrives, double-click to open the “index.htm” file in an Internet browser, and look it over.

Despite the years of data Facebook has collected, downloading it won’t require a separate hard drive for giant files. Most are text based, and thus, tiny files. As I did, you’ll jump over the obvious, such as the names of your Facebook friends, which are listed already on the social network, along with your posts, photos, etc.

Where it gets weird is in the phone numbers — why does Facebook have them?

Separately, Facebook has been collecting information on calls and text messages from Android devices, but the social network defended itself by saying it sought permission to do so. It was sold primarily as a feature for Facebook Messenger to help “you find and stay connected with the people you care about,” Facebook said.

Meanwhile, you don’t need to download the file to find out which advertisers have targeted you and have your personal information, including what your religious and political persuasions are. Again, in the Settings section in Facebook, head to the Ads section by clicking on “Ads” in the left menu. Here you can try and play havoc with Facebook’s algorithm by deleting some of the assumptions it has come up with. Political and religious were first to go for me, although the others seem pretty tame, such as male friends with birthdays within seven days.

After a few more clicks, I found out which advertisers had my info. The magazine Vanity Fair, which I love but don’t subscribe to, has the goods on me, along with Dollar Rent a Car and Uber, which I do use. Facebook said these companies had “your contact info” but didn’t spell out how extensive that was. (We asked Facebook and are awaiting an answer.) One section that definitely is worth clicking “no” to: the ad settings where Facebook asks if it can create ads for you based on websites and apps you visit. You could argue that targeted ads make for a better Internet experience. I’m followed around everywhere I surf with ads for cameras and guitars because Facebook knows I love them, but, hey, if I want to buy a camera, I know where to go.

Jeremiah Owyang, an analyst with Kaleido Insights, suggests turning off as many features as possible on Facebook. “The less information you give, the more privacy you’ll have,” he says. Let’s be real — you can click every button, and Facebook will still find a way to keep tracking you. But it can track less.

People should of known they were collecting data. It was a free service and had to be paid for somehow. Wake up, nothing is free.

ron said:

People should of known they were collecting data. It was a free service and had to be paid for somehow. Wake up, nothing is free.

Gotcha. But I don't think anyone realized how much data they were collecting on you.

And by the way, some things ARE free. This website is a perfect example. We charge members nothing, we collect no user data, we target no ads at you. The only thing we collect are some vague statistics regarding how many posts were made, how much traffic the site gets, etc., to manage the server load. We collect nothing on individual users, other than if you're here, you obviously have some kind of a love/hate relationship with Rocky Point. :)

Jungle Jim said:

Butterboy and his Iranian pal are some greezy lookin kreeps. Gotta get me some zoot-suits like they got, good for clam diggin.

Kant wait to get em a wheelbarrow load of cash for my investment.

The second windmill is ready for the propeller installation and some fresh "investors" as they are the prototypes for the vast planned eco-friendly wind farms to be built south of Santo Tomas. Gotta feelin the Osprey, Raven and Zopilote population down there will take quite a dive.

JJ

Jesus, if they actually build that nightmare windfarm south of me...on one of the biggest bird migration paths in the god gam world...I am going postal...

Stuart,
There is no way you can compare your site to Facebook. Facebook has 1.2 billion users. If you scaled this site up to those numbers there is no way you could provide this service for free. It would cost millions of dollars to handle the traffic.
As for a "love hate relationship" with Rocky Point, I don't know where that came from but since I live here, I am a realist and like to know both good and bad information on where I live.

ron said:

I am a realist and like to know both good and bad information on where I live.

Which was exactly my point, Ron. It's what we try to provide.

No, we're not Facebook. No desire to be so. We're just a little backwater laguna in the great sea that is the Internet.

Peace.

I started visiting on the old forum. Was living up in the US and seriously thinking of relocating to Penasco. Found the earlier Forum and signed on. I'm not a Forum type of guy wanting mindless blather and found the information I could glean useful. I have also tried to be helpful to newbies as I gained an education about life in Mexico and Penasco.

When the old forum was shut down I was delighted to see that Pie Man stepped forward with a new version. Then volunteer moderators stepped forward and of course Stuart has continued on keeping things on track. Thanks to all and currently thanks to Stuart. Without his involvement the forum would be off the air. Thank you Stuart.

There were some real hot times on the forum. Who still remembers Sub and the Walmart wars ?? Few of the old timers post anymore. Where is Dry Heat??

Roberto said:

I started visiting on the old forum. Was living up in the US and seriously thinking of relocating to Penasco. Found the earlier Forum and signed on. I'm not a Forum type of guy wanting mindless blather and found the information I could glean useful. I have also tried to be helpful to newbies as I gained an education about life in Mexico and Penasco.

When the old forum was shut down I was delighted to see that Pie Man stepped forward with a new version. Then volunteer moderators stepped forward and of course Stuart has continued on keeping things on track. Thanks to all and currently thanks to Stuart. Without his involvement the forum would be off the air. Thank you Stuart.

There were some real hot times on the forum. Who still remembers Sub and the Walmart wars ?? Few of the old timers post anymore. Where is Dry Heat??

He's most likely buried in the foundation of Esmerelda....

~~~ AND Happy~~~

My old nemesis Dry Heat sold his condo at LP as did I. He was always bangin the LP drum, I felt to a fault. Those guys are crooks over there and the HOA (dry) was complicit in the scheme. Always getting preferential treatment, rentals, etc. Best move I ever made to exit that circus.

MIRAMAR said:

~~~ AND Happy~~~

I still hear form Haps from time to time. He was checking the forum regularly.

I tired of the tildas~~~~~

Since somebody brought up missing persons, what happened to Lady Jeeper and Lagrimas?

Haven't heard from Jeepers since I left Facebook. She tends to hang out there, or did. Last activity here shows March 25.

Don't know about Lagrimas. The vaquitas ate him, I guess. Last activity July 2017.

ernesto said:

My old nemesis Dry Heat sold his condo at LP as did I. He was always bangin the LP drum, I felt to a fault. Those guys are crooks over there and the HOA (dry) was complicit in the scheme. Always getting preferential treatment, rentals, etc. Best move I ever made to exit that circus.

You mean Benny the lawyer who specialized and made his money for the most part, off of people's misfortunes? Ha, and wore clip on ties? Yep, I remember him.

ernesto said:

My old nemesis Dry Heat sold his condo at LP as did I. He was always bangin the LP drum, I felt to a fault. Those guys are crooks over there and the HOA (dry) was complicit in the scheme. Always getting preferential treatment, rentals, etc. Best move I ever made to exit that circus.

He was a snarky bastard.....I bet he dressed like a dick too....

jerry said:

He was a snarky bastard.....I bet he dressed like a dick too....

Caution: These images may be offensive to some.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/davidmack/dick-pics?utm_term=.tx28kEz5Y#.xydDOYN38

jerry said:

He's most likely buried in the foundation of Esmerelda....

We stay at the Sonoran Sun which is right next to Esmerelda. My husband is a retired Ironworker and he walked over and looked at the unfinished construction that sat there for many, many years. He said he wouldn't set foot in that building if they decide to "finish" it. The rebar is so bad, that building will collapse some day. I see on some rental sites that they are renting condos in there. Yikes!

dwig222 said:

We stay at the Sonoran Sun which is right next to Esmerelda. My husband is a retired Ironworker and he walked over and looked at the unfinished construction that sat there for many, many years. He said he wouldn't set foot in that building if they decide to "finish" it. The rebar is so bad, that building will collapse some day. I see on some rental sites that they are renting condos in there. Yikes!

That's just the way they do things in Mexico. The entire town is an OSHA violation.

You do realize...........

Nothing in Mexico ever gets "finished". Once it is they have to pay property tax. That is why some part of every structure anywhere in Mexico
is deliberately left "un-finished".

As example, take a look at Reggie's it's been "under construction" for twenty years now.

JJ

I agreed with the post above about unfinished projects and rust. 15 years ago I worked In Sonoran for a company that help American Companies maintain OSHA laws in their companies that manufactured down there. I spent time in Hermosillo and we were going to buy in San Carlos. We went down and played golf. One of my safety directors told us that the resort we were going to put money in would never be built because they did really have title to the property. He came with us and got our money back. So we bought at S Spa and later Bella. I love going to Penasco. I have a have one condo that is paid for and it still cost a lot of money. I would never encourage my kids to do this. And they tell me their friends that own in Ensenada are paying all kinds of taxes and fees and have a hard time unloading their property.

Ron and Stewart,
You both live “full time” in RP?
Even in the summer?
Where do you live? Condos? With all the amenities?
Where do u hail from originally?
Are these personal enough questions?

Do not live in RP. I visit often and have for 35+ years. I live in Tempe.

Stay all over the place when I'm there, from Las Conchas, to Playa Del Oro, to hotels, to Cholla Bay, to the condos on Sandy Beach. I don't own property there, but have lots of friends that do.

I was born in Florida, but grew up in Pennsylvania. Moved to AZ in 1981.

Have traveled over much of Mexico, love the place. Will be in Mazatlan for a week on Monday. I was probably a Mexican in a previous life because I feel perfectly at home there.

Other questions?

Have u tried out the new Tempe Market Cafe? Or Oink?
Do u live that far south?

Market Cafe vastly overrated and overpriced. Same with Oink.

My wife and I own AZBreadCo cafe at Kyrene and Elliot. We live just by Guadalupe and Kyrene in south Tempe.

Very disappointed to hear that about TMC. They are connected to “the Saint Francis” cafe near Central&Camelback. Very popular , old establishment.
Been to Oink once, all about the bacon.
I will try your place out soon...... neighbor.

Stuart, we have been visiting in the Tempe area so we decided to try out your place for breakfast yesterday. Really enjoyed it.....great food, great service, and can't beat the price! We especially liked the breakfast sausage.

Horace Greely said:

Have u tried out the new Tempe Market Cafe? Or Oink?
Do u live that far south?

A bit pricey, but great food with vegetarian options for those who care about that. (Oh but wait . . . AZ Bread has vegggie options as well.)

apricot said:

Stuart, we have been visiting in the Tempe area so we decided to try out your place for breakfast yesterday. Really enjoyed it.....great food, great service, and can't beat the price! We especially liked the breakfast sausage.

Thank-you! I'll pass it along to the wife!

I'm still here. Just haven't checked in often. Have a lot going on and I've been ill again. Going to try for a few days in PP on Tuesday.....

Ladyjeeper said:

I'm still here. Just haven't checked in often. Have a lot going on and I've been ill again. Going to try for a few days in PP on Tuesday.....

Good to hear you’re still kicking! Hope you are feeling better soon.

Just got home from MZT. Hope ya feel better Chari!